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Old 09-30-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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Well then, at lease we can compete with Houston in metro )
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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Well then, at lease we can compete with Houston in metro )
Interestingly, if you look at the Fcc's designated market area (DMA) which concerns media coverage and rules governing TV broadcasting, the Philadelphia DMA includes a larger area than the Census bureau metro. In this case Philadelphia DMA is much larger than Dallas-Ft Worth or Houston.

If you use DMA (Designated Market Area) instead of MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) or CSA (Combined Statistical Area) then Philadelphia DMA is the 4th largest in the country. New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago are the largest no matter what metric you use.

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Old 10-06-2012, 01:04 AM
 
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Your DMA map appears to be missing Cecil County and Sussex County, both of which I believe are covered in the Phila media market. I agree fully with you, however. Philadelphia's influence goes far beyond what the dusty old farts of the Census Bureau think.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:16 AM
 
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Your DMA map appears to be missing Cecil County and Sussex County, both of which I believe are covered in the Phila media market. I agree fully with you, however. Philadelphia's influence goes far beyond what the dusty old farts of the Census Bureau think.
In numbers you see Philadelphia with a clear lead over DFW or SFO. The major networks own a broadcast channel in all 6 of these markets (with the only exception that ABC does not own a TV channel in DFW).

TV Households
7,387,810 New York
5,569,780 Los Angeles
3,493,480 Chicago
2,993,370 Philadelphia
2,571,310 Dallas-Ft. Worth
2,506,510 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:21 AM
 
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I wonder who is coming into the city. Is it the people in the suburbs, or immigration, or from other parts of the U.S.?
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:32 AM
 
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I wonder who is coming into the city. Is it the people in the suburbs, or immigration, or from other parts of the U.S.?
There are detailed studies somewhere, but based on the increase in Asian and Latino demographic it is not directly international immigration, but domestic immigration from the New York Statistical Area (much bigger than just NY itself).

There is profound increase in the Latino population of the smaller cities in Eastern Pennsylvania (Easton, Allentown, Bethlehem, Reading, York, and Lancaster) and a smaller shift in Harrisburg, Wilkes-Barre, and Scranton.

While the smaller cities are more affordable than Philadelphia, Philadelphia itself is much less expensive and crowded than Brooklyn or Queens.

A secondary effect is the huge increase in the affluent center city zip codes 19103.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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Philly is a slum. The only part that gained was Center City. The other 99% lost.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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Philly is a slum. The only part that gained was Center City. The other 99% lost.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philly is a slum. The only part that gained was Center City. The other 99% lost.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Philly
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There are detailed studies somewhere, but based on the increase in Asian and Latino demographic it is not directly international immigration, but domestic immigration from the New York Statistical Area (much bigger than just NY itself).

There is profound increase in the Latino population of the smaller cities in Eastern Pennsylvania (Easton, Allentown, Bethlehem, Reading, York, and Lancaster) and a smaller shift in Harrisburg, Wilkes-Barre, and Scranton.

While the smaller cities are more affordable than Philadelphia, Philadelphia itself is much less expensive and crowded than Brooklyn or Queens.

A secondary effect is the huge increase in the affluent center city zip codes 19103.
Actually it IS direct international immigration largely from the Dominican (a lot are from the same towns) as well as Mexico and migration from Puerto Rico. Philadelphia does import immigrants and migrants from NY but it is not the main source of its immigration. The other cities are importing immigrants from NY for cost reasons as well as the drug trade which runs along the highway. Its worth noting Lancaster has been heavily Latino for decades since Puerto ricans moved there for factory work.
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