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Old 09-16-2016, 08:42 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Developer wants to break height limit on Philly's Delaware River waterfront


This will likely fall apart, but could be a game changer. I would actually prefer to see this kind of develop along the schuylkill river. The gigantic parking lot next to the Peco building on Arch I believe would be perfect for a multi-building development.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Developer wants to break height limit on Philly's Delaware River waterfront


This will likely fall apart, but could be a game changer. I would actually prefer to see this kind of develop along the schuylkill river. The gigantic parking lot next to the Peco building on Arch I believe would be perfect for a multi-building development.
Saw this too. I'm glad to read the community is weighing in early to help ensure the project is pedestrian-friendly at ground level.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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Developer wants to break height limit on Philly's Delaware River waterfront


This will likely fall apart, but could be a game changer. I would actually prefer to see this kind of develop along the schuylkill river. The gigantic parking lot next to the Peco building on Arch I believe would be perfect for a multi-building development.
It could be Philly's version of NYC's Hudson Yards, kind of. But further north, just north of Spring Garden St on Delaware Ave, stand three high rises(originally supposed to be 5) which were, likely victims of bad timing. So those are a cautionary tale.

No one has yet to purpose anything on that Peco parking lot, afaik. It's even worse than 8th and Market lot which has had multiple ideas over the years.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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Developer wants to break height limit on Philly's Delaware River waterfront


This will likely fall apart, but could be a game changer. I would actually prefer to see this kind of develop along the schuylkill river. The gigantic parking lot next to the Peco building on Arch I believe would be perfect for a multi-building development.

The article states that there are already plans in motion for a building where Festival Pier is located. Is that correct? That's a great place to see a show!
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: New York City
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It could be Philly's version of NYC's Hudson Yards, kind of. But further north, just north of Spring Garden St on Delaware Ave, stand three high rises(originally supposed to be 5) which were, likely victims of bad timing. So those are a cautionary tale.

No one has yet to purpose anything on that Peco parking lot, afaik. It's even worse than 8th and Market lot which has had multiple ideas over the years.
So optimistic, but not quite lol. I think 30th St Station has the possibility to be Hudson Yards (sort of) but not the Delaware River.


I am surprised with the residential development, the lot on Arch still is a parking lot.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Philly, PA
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30th St is a "Hudson Yards" type of project. I called that once plans was released. Development over the train yards, and train station and capping the yards and all that development.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Developer wants to break height limit on Philly's Delaware River waterfront


This will likely fall apart, but could be a game changer. I would actually prefer to see this kind of develop along the schuylkill river. The gigantic parking lot next to the Peco building on Arch I believe would be perfect for a multi-building development.
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Those empty lots north of the PECO building are indeed just crying for development - and so far, none of the plans announced for those lots have gotten past the pretty-renderings stage - but:

What are One Riverside, the FMC Tower and Evo, chopped liver?

And the office-only Aramark HQ was supposed to have been a taller and more visually interesting mixed-use building. It would have been hard to keep anything that reused the Marketplace Design Center from not looking like a slab; the only way to do that would have been to build a slenderer residential tower over half the old building, and that would have required reinforcing its supports on that side, no doubt. The original slab Varenhorst and Gensler produced had the modest virtue of breaking the slab up into a collage of irregular forms.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Those empty lots north of the PECO building are indeed just crying for development - and so far, none of the plans announced for those lots have gotten past the pretty-renderings stage - but:

What are One Riverside, the FMC Tower and Evo, chopped liver?

And the office-only Aramark HQ was supposed to have been a taller and more visually interesting mixed-use building. It would have been hard to keep anything that reused the Marketplace Design Center from not looking like a slab; the only way to do that would have been to build a slenderer residential tower over half the old building, and that would have required reinforcing its supports on that side, no doubt. The original slab Varenhorst and Gensler produced had the modest virtue of breaking the slab up into a collage of irregular forms.
One Riverside is excellent, we need more of those, (so many wasted opportunities already, 23rd and Walnut for example).

I love FMC, but someone really needs to cap that little triangular section on Schuylkill Ave above the train tracks. That would be a perfect little parklet.

I think in general the Schuylkill has so much more potential than the Delaware, much smaller area, but if 30th St plan takes off, and west market fills in, that area to me would be the new "center" of the city.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Hyatt Centric hotel plan at Little Pete's site to move forward


I am very happy with this project. Stinks no rooftop restaurant anymore though.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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450 New Apartments Planned at 4th & Callowhill - Philadelphia Magazine
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