Philadelphia 2035 (Liberty: kitchen cabinets, sales, apartments)

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by AJNEOA

A genuine approach would be to launch a learning, video, show, exhibit, etc. about the history of Penn in this regard. An understanding of the times, what actually happened, how it has impacted the institution today.

If you read the article, you should have run across a passage in which the reporter explains that this apology is just the first step down a path that two other Ivy League universities have trod, in which they are now digging up their own pasts to examine the degree to which their entanglement with slavery affected their own fortunes and trajectories.

One of them is Princeton:

The Princeton & Slavery Project

Consider for a moment the only Ivy League president to follow that up by running the country: Princeton's Woodrow Wilson, who passed through Drumthwacket (the official residence of the Governor of New Jersey, though it might not have been at the time) between Nassau Hall and the White House.

The native Virginian clearly was a racist: he refused to meet with civil rights leaders where his two precedessors (both Republicans, one a Roosevelt) had done so, and he praised the KKK apologia "Birth of a Nation" to high heaven.

Maybe not a direct link, but certainly spiritually descended from those slaveholding Princetonians.

Likewise, Penn's medical school trained most of the South's physicians, and there was strong pro-Confederate sentiment at the school.

Given how much we still discover about the bigotry buried in our past (go read some recent articles about Henry Flagler, the man who made Florida what it is now thanks to the railroad he built with convict labor), I'm not so sure that confessing sins committed 150 years ago might not have some value beyond the purely feel-good. To go back to that Christian metaphor, and to use a phrase I've used in the past, race-based slavery is the apple in the American Garden of Eden. We Christians get reminded about that original sin all the time. We Americans need to be reminded of ours too.

[Lenses & Lights.]

In other news from Philly.com.

University City Newman Center slated for replacement with 30-story apartment tower - Philly

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by Lenses & Lights.

In other news from Philly.com.

University City Newman Center slated for replacement with 30-story apartment tower - Philly

Not a bad looking tower from the tiny rendering. 30 stories will certainly spread the skyline west.

[AJNEOA]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

If you read the article, you should have run across a passage in which the reporter explains that this apology is just the first step down a path that two other Ivy League universities have trod, in which they are now digging up their own pasts to examine the degree to which their entanglement with slavery affected their own fortunes and trajectories.

I saw it, but notice that the apology came first with not even enough to make mention regarding the plans the university might have.

We can talk about slavery all we want. Not sure how that's going improve our lousy schools or lack of jobs or impoverished neighborhoods. That's the symptom of modern racism, is it not? How about Darrell Clarke? Anyone want to focus on a guy in office that makes a living off of keeping his neighborhoods poor? What would make the bigger impact, outing WW or exposing Clarke?

Companies and Universities have a very calculated way of apologizing. UPenn is likely no different. I'll leave it alone now. Sorry everyone.

[Hannah5555]

Originally Posted by AJNEOA

I saw it, but notice that the apology came first with not even enough to make mention regarding the plans the university might have.

We can talk about slavery all we want. Not sure how that's going improve our lousy schools or lack of jobs or impoverished neighborhoods. That's the symptom of modern racism, is it not? How about Darrell Clarke? Anyone want to focus on a guy in office that makes a living off of keeping his neighborhoods poor? What would make the bigger impact, outing WW or exposing Clarke?

Companies and Universities have a very calculated way of apologizing. UPenn is likely no different. I'll leave it alone now. Sorry everyone.

FWIW I agree with you.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

If you read the article, you should have run across a passage in which the reporter explains that this apology is just the first step down a path that two other Ivy League universities have trod, in which they are now digging up their own pasts to examine the degree to which their entanglement with slavery affected their own fortunes and trajectories.

One of them is Princeton:

The Princeton & Slavery Project

Consider for a moment the only Ivy League president to follow that up by running the country: Princeton's Woodrow Wilson, who passed through Drumthwacket (the official residence of the Governor of New Jersey, though it might not have been at the time) between Nassau Hall and the White House.

The native Virginian clearly was a racist: he refused to meet with civil rights leaders where his two precedessors (both Republicans, one a Roosevelt) had done so, and he praised the KKK apologia "Birth of a Nation" to high heaven.

Maybe not a direct link, but certainly spiritually descended from those slaveholding Princetonians.

Likewise, Penn's medical school trained most of the South's physicians, and there was strong pro-Confederate sentiment at the school.

Given how much we still discover about the bigotry buried in our past (go read some recent articles about Henry Flagler, the man who made Florida what it is now thanks to the railroad he built with convict labor), I'm not so sure that confessing sins committed 150 years ago might not have some value beyond the purely feel-good. To go back to that Christian metaphor, and to use a phrase I've used in the past, race-based slavery is the apple in the American Garden of Eden. We Christians get reminded about that original sin all the time. We Americans need to be reminded of ours too.

Pre Civil War, the wealthy in Richmond sent their children to Philadelphia for school. Some in North Carolina did, as well. There was a cavalry unit from Philadelphia in the western theater. One of the Philadelphians captured a Confederate officer at Stones River. The encounter is written about.

Philadelphia was the main site of the cotton mills. There were mixed feelings about the war.

[Pine to Vine]

Friends at Center City One told us Dranoff’s team met with residents to share plans on starting SLS construction around November/December. Total exterior build time should last close to 2 years. It will be a few stories shorter than originally planned (can’t remember that figure - 47 stories?).

Haven’t heard from RightonWalnut for a while. He’s in the know on these things.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Friends at Center City One told us Dranoff’s team met with residents to share plans on starting SLS construction around November/December. Total exterior build time should last close to 2 years. It will be a few stories shorter than originally planned (can’t remember that figure - 47 stories?).

Haven’t heard from RightonWalnut for a while. He’s in the know on these things.

And scannapieco is still active in the zoning and approvals process for the Rtiz theater site. Two luxury condos hitting the market together again.

I still think its still that "The Laurel" (Rittenhouse Tower) is waiting to long to get going. The developer had a great chance get a year head start on the other projects, and there is no other major competition at the moment.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Friends at Center City One told us Dranoff’s team met with residents to share plans on starting SLS construction around November/December. Total exterior build time should last close to 2 years. It will be a few stories shorter than originally planned (can’t remember that figure - 47 stories?).

Haven’t heard from RightonWalnut for a while. He’s in the know on these things.

No new renderings?

However there does not seem to be any movement on three projects that were announced some time ago. Two are still surface parking lots(nw corner of Broad and Spring Garden, nw corner 13th and Market). The third is a new building to replace a closed garage on N. Broad St next door to PAFA's Hamilton Bldg. Nothing wrt new construction is going at any of these locations.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by cpomp

And scannapieco is still active in the zoning and approvals process for the Rtiz theater site. Two luxury condos hitting the market together again.

I still think its still that "The Laurel" (Rittenhouse Tower) is waiting to long to get going. The developer had a great chance get a year head start on the other projects, and there is no other major competition at the moment.

Well, at least we can be sure that Scannapieco will get it started/done....hopefully.

The Laurel?! Where did that name come from? Eh... Just call it 1911 Walnut. There is touch and go uncertainty going on wrt a lot of financial issues and the tariffs. Can developers lock in steel availability and prices?