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Old 11-15-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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I guess I use the word progressive slightly differently. Traditionally it would mean social rights, workers rights, LGBT rights, etc.

I am viewing it as a 21st century thinking mayor bringing Philadelphia to the forefront in attracting businesses and economic revenue for the region, growing the city's national and international profile, tapping into wealthy philanthropists and organizations to invest in the city or locate projects here, a forward thinking tax structure, public works project, infrastructure improvements, and so on.

Adding a brown stripe to the LGBT flag, worrying about a transgender bus pass, increasing parking minimums and fear of hurting peoples feelings should not be the focus of the mayor or city government in my opinion. Maybe if Philadelphia were a Utopian city those caviar issues would be number 1, but its not.

That is what I mean by progressive leadership. I want a mayor with balls (figure of speech, could be a woman) who will get Philadelphia's act together.

Philadelphia is an incredible city and could easily be number 2 to New York, but it's not and city leadership is largely to blame.
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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https://www.phillymag.com/property/2...-this-weekend/

Yay, trees
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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Yea, there are a pretty good number of people none too pleased about Amazon heading to NYC. I really would have liked it (or the two now) to go to Cleveland, Newark, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Baltimore or Chicago.
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Amazon apparently picks Northern VA and LIC for its HQ2:

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...arters-n935511

What does this mean for Philly? Since we are right smack between the two, I expect Philly to catch the "overflow" out of NYC. Perhaps those who can afford the time and price cost of Acela would live in Philly, get on at 30th st, get off at Penn and take the E to Queens Plaza.
Idk about the commuting to LIC from Philly. However, like OyCrumbler said, nobody wants it here. Everyone I know is quite pissed that NYC is getting half of HQ2. We don't want it. It's already so expensive to live here. While only 25k more people working here and living here isn't that big a number considering the size of NYC, the overflow of other jobs and people moving here to work in peripheral operations to that HQ2, plus any other companies looking to move in because HQ2 will be here, is going to cause even more affordability problems. The culture of inner Queens is going to change a lot (Astoria, Sunnyside, Woodside, Jackson Heights). Those neighborhoods aren't so different from a lot of Philly (mostly rowhomes, some with parking, narrow streets, very locally owned, lacking high rises, etc.)

Already a lot of people are escaping NYC and DC COL by moving to Philly. I see that trend continuing. Which isn't bad. Philly has the room. There isn't the problem of literally not being able to fit anyone. Many parts of the city of Philly are not entirely built up like they are in NYC and DC. NYC has already spilled over in Hudson County and Hudson County is now getting unaffordable. DC has spilled over into NoVa. Philly has not spilled over into Camden yet. I think there is still a lot of room for growth in Philly that will not lead to the same COL problems that NYC and DC experience right now. And if my social circle is any indication, at least two of us who are highly educated but don't make the 6 figures required to feel comfortable in NYC are considering a move to Philly when possible. So the people migrating down to Philly from NYC would be the well-educated type looking to stretch their dollar further in a similarly urban/cultural city.

I see more people moving from NYC to Philly than DC to Philly. Philly and NYC are undoubtedly Northern cities. DC has a lot of Southern transplants and Southern influence. Idk if they'd feel as comfortable moving to Philly as New Yorkers would.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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Idk about the commuting to LIC from Philly. However, like OyCrumbler said, nobody wants it here. Everyone I know is quite pissed that NYC is getting half of HQ2. We don't want it. It's already so expensive to live here. While only 25k more people working here and living here isn't that big a number considering the size of NYC, the overflow of other jobs and people moving here to work in peripheral operations to that HQ2, plus any other companies looking to move in because HQ2 will be here, is going to cause even more affordability problems. The culture of inner Queens is going to change a lot (Astoria, Sunnyside, Woodside, Jackson Heights). Those neighborhoods aren't so different from a lot of Philly (mostly rowhomes, some with parking, narrow streets, very locally owned, lacking high rises, etc.)

Already a lot of people are escaping NYC and DC COL by moving to Philly. I see that trend continuing. Which isn't bad. Philly has the room. There isn't the problem of literally not being able to fit anyone. Many parts of the city of Philly are not entirely built up like they are in NYC and DC. NYC has already spilled over in Hudson County and Hudson County is now getting unaffordable. DC has spilled over into NoVa. Philly has not spilled over into Camden yet. I think there is still a lot of room for growth in Philly that will not lead to the same COL problems that NYC and DC experience right now. And if my social circle is any indication, at least two of us who are highly educated but don't make the 6 figures required to feel comfortable in NYC are considering a move to Philly when possible. So the people migrating down to Philly from NYC would be the well-educated type looking to stretch their dollar further in a similarly urban/cultural city.

I see more people moving from NYC to Philly than DC to Philly. Philly and NYC are undoubtedly Northern cities. DC has a lot of Southern transplants and Southern influence. Idk if they'd feel as comfortable moving to Philly as New Yorkers would.
I still think Amazon would have been a great economic boost that the city desperately needs. So the decision to move to NYC did no good for anyone... (except for the super rich in NYC who are friends with Bezos).

Anyways, I think NYC and PHL are the two most connected major cities in the nation. They have grown up together for 300 years and share so much history and ties along the way.

That being said, I still think it is vital for Philadelphia to remain attractive to large companies. The city is falling behind to its own suburbs in terms of economic prosperity.

It is great that educated New Yorkers like and want to move to Philadelphia, but I am not going to say the hell with economic growth because New Yorkers feel cozy in good ole Philadelphia. I have said many times Philadelphia is far off from an affordability problem so that shouldn't even be an argument for why Amazon or Apple shouldn't come to the city. NYC (and now DC) are a different story.

The city needs to keep up! We have the culture, we have the arts, we have the dining, we have the history, but we don't have the economic competitiveness that our neighbors have. I read the Philadelphia Business Journal daily and see new companies opening satellites in King of Prussia almost daily, that needs to be Philadelphia. The GoPuff news is fantastic, but that doesn't happen often, that type of investment needs to happen in the city monthly.

The possibility of Apple locating a major office in Philadelphia would be huge. So my fingers are crossed for that.

And not trying to dismiss your post, it was great, just sharing my thoughts.

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Old 11-15-2018, 09:20 PM
 
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It

Alan Butkovitz for mayor... Thoughts?
Sigh. No! Just no!

And Anthony Williams is making noise about it again. "No" to him too.

We need new blood.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Because he can't be worse than Kenney?
Sure he can.

Rizzo, Goode( not at first but after MOVE) and Street were all worse than him.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I guess I use the word progressive slightly differently. Traditionally it would mean social rights, workers rights, LGBT rights, etc.

I am viewing it as a 21st century thinking mayor bringing Philadelphia to the forefront in attracting businesses and economic revenue for the region, growing the city's national and international profile, tapping into wealthy philanthropists and organizations to invest in the city or locate projects here, a forward thinking tax structure, public works project, infrastructure improvements, and so on.

Adding a brown stripe to the LGBT flag, worrying about a transgender bus pass, increasing parking minimums and fear of hurting peoples feelings should not be the focus of the mayor or city government in my opinion. Maybe if Philadelphia were a Utopian city those caviar issues would be number 1, but its not.

That is what I mean by progressive leadership. I want a mayor with balls (figure of speech, could be a woman) who will get Philadelphia's act together.

Philadelphia is an incredible city and could easily be number 2 to New York, but it's not and city leadership is largely to blame.
In defense of Kenney on your chief criterion:

When was the last time a mayor of Philadelphia went abroad on a global trade mission?

He seems to have learned something from being involved in putting together that HQ2 pitch.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Great options to choose from.

The city needs a progressive yet hard core mayor who will elevate Philadelphia. A Guiliani type (my opinion).
You should know by now that Guiliani is not who lots of people thought he was. Were you asleep all last summer wrt his TV appearances?!

Locally it's same thing I've been saying for ages: until millennials decide they will run for office here we are stuck with a similar cast of characters over and over until someone finally steps up.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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Kenney is a part of the city's Democratic machine, and that is the single biggest problem with this city. It's machine politics at its finest.
Run for office just like AOC did in NY.

Be the change you want.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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I guess I use the word progressive slightly differently. Traditionally it would mean social rights, workers rights, LGBT rights, etc.

I am viewing it as a 21st century thinking mayor bringing Philadelphia to the forefront in attracting businesses and economic revenue for the region, growing the city's national and international profile, tapping into wealthy philanthropists and organizations to invest in the city or locate projects here, a forward thinking tax structure, public works project, infrastructure improvements, and so on.

Adding a brown stripe to the LGBT flag, worrying about a transgender bus pass, increasing parking minimums and fear of hurting peoples feelings should not be the focus of the mayor or city government in my opinion. Maybe if Philadelphia were a Utopian city those caviar issues would be number 1, but its not.

That is what I mean by progressive leadership. I want a mayor with balls (figure of speech, could be a woman) who will get Philadelphia's act together.

Philadelphia is an incredible city and could easily be number 2 to New York, but it's not and city leadership is largely to blame.
I really wish your generation in this town would simply do what you're saying above. You have the numbers, education and skill set to be tremendously effective.
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