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Old 12-06-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: The mountain of Airy
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"Thereís a lot we donít know about the program, such as what neighborhoods it would target, when exactly it would launch, how often the streets would be cleaned, and ó perhaps most important for DiCiccoís rattling ghost ó what it would mean for parking. Will people have to move their cars? We donít know yet."

Any chance The Program gets reduced to a once-monthly street sweeper that circles City Hall?
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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"There’s a lot we don’t know about the program, such as what neighborhoods it would target, when exactly it would launch, how often the streets would be cleaned, and — perhaps most important for DiCicco’s rattling ghost — what it would mean for parking. Will people have to move their cars? We don’t know yet."

Any chance The Program gets reduced to a once-monthly street sweeper that circles City Hall?
The "we don't know" is all bulls**t. They can just look at every other big city and how street cleaning is implemented. I fear that this timidness and half-assery is a sign that the city/Kenny is going to do the bare minimum to appease both sides.

If TWICE weekly alternate side parking is done in NYC, it can be done here. Not on every street of course, but on at least those where there is parking on both sides of the street. Cars would be double-parked during the time window and then moved back afterwards. My house growing up was one block away from a hospital and the workers would walk over and move the car to double-park at 10:50am and then come back after lunch to move the car back at 1pm every Tuesday and Thursday.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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S. Phila is a dense, wild conflation of humanity with a strong sense of tradition and an unbelievable enjoyment of car ownership. Some parts of some neighborhoods clean their streets up, but people don't want to move their cars, which makes any cleaning a challenge. Plus, there is more of everything down there than in Fairmount. The 9th St Market generates a TON of trash; particularly Pat's and Geno's.

Most of South Philly's streets and sidewalks are a lot cleaner than most of North & West Philly streets, as well as parts of a few other sections of town. The entire city needs to get on board with neighborhood efforts in obtaining and maintaining clean blocks.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: The mountain of Airy
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Most of South Philly's streets and sidewalks are a lot cleaner than most of North & West Philly streets, as well as parts of a few other sections of town. The entire city needs to get on board with neighborhood efforts in obtaining and maintaining clean blocks.
That's true, but look at the housing values and crime. Trash follows poverty in many cases, but not always. There are a lot of blocks in S Philly with high value and lots of trash.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The mountain of Airy
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The "we don't know" is all bulls**t. They can just look at every other big city and how street cleaning is implemented. I fear that this timidness and half-assery is a sign that the city/Kenny is going to do the bare minimum to appease both sides.

If TWICE weekly alternate side parking is done in NYC, it can be done here. Not on every street of course, but on at least those where there is parking on both sides of the street. Cars would be double-parked during the time window and then moved back afterwards. My house growing up was one block away from a hospital and the workers would walk over and move the car to double-park at 10:50am and then come back after lunch to move the car back at 1pm every Tuesday and Thursday.
Preacher/choir

Your assessment of half-assery by Kenney is almost a certainty. He has stated multiple times that he won't touch South Philly. One of several places where it's really needed. It's a basic municipal service...
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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You agree with Inga? And an article she wrote is great?!? Wow, next thing you know, a madman will be in the White House...oh wait.
Yeah, hell is freezing over. But, seriously, she is correct. The flip board gives the station a certain flare.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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Most of South Philly's streets and sidewalks are a lot cleaner than most of North & West Philly streets, as well as parts of a few other sections of town. The entire city needs to get on board with neighborhood efforts in obtaining and maintaining clean blocks.
Before some of you all were born there was a big effort to do exactly what you suggest. There were awards for the cleanest block and people seemed to take pride in trying to achieve it.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: New York City
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New Census figures on Philly neighborhoods show inequality, high numbers of whites living in poverty

More startling news about Philadelphia's poverty and inequlity.

Also, Graduate Hospital surpassed Chestnut Hill with highest income.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Also, Graduate Hospital surpassed Chestnut Hill with highest income.
Wow, that's surprising. I guess because GH is virtually all single homes and no apartments?
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Wow, that's surprising. I guess because GH is virtually all single homes and no apartments?
No apartments, but a good number of condominiums, which are apartments you own.

Condo owners tend to be better off than apartment renters on average.
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