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Philadelphia 30th Street Station District Plan
Not sure if this wascbrought up because this thread is huge 700+ pages. Jesus!! https://schuylkillyards.com/
Not sure if anyone brought this one up either because I didn't read through the entire thread, but I'm sure someone already has. This would be an amazing addition to the center city/university city skylines. Philly gotta a long way to go to catch up to any of the other world cities. Also, architects are getting annoying with this whole 200-400 ft structural spire thing just to hold their design in higher standings on the tallest buildings list. I'm not really impressed by CITC tower. I hope we get a better iconic looking skyscraper for our next #1 super tall. America is behind the middle east, and Asia on super talls(300m - 1000ft), and hyper talls(600m - 2000ft). We can only up from here in Center City, and U city.
Not totally on topic but I don't like CITC either. While it was designed by probably the most prestigious living architect, I think its a failure. I've read interviews with Norman Foster and his take was inspiration from factories, hence the pseudo industrial look to it. I wouldn't say thats condescending but its getting there. If he was hired to design a similar tower, for Honolulu what would the reaction be if he just designed a big ass glass pineapple? Or if he was hired to design a skyscraper for Baltimore and it was just curvy glass to honor the Divine from John Waters movies? While I would appreciate it, its like he did he research by spending 2 minutes on wiki.
Philly is many things, we don't need to harken on the past to project greatness. Thats what losers do.
Philadelphia 30th Street Station District Plan
Not sure if this wascbrought up because this thread is huge 700+ pages. Jesus!! https://schuylkillyards.com/
Not sure if anyone brought this one up either because I didn't read through the entire thread, but I'm sure someone already has. This would be an amazing addition to the center city/university city skylines. Philly gotta a long way to go to catch up to any of the other world cities. Also, architects are getting annoying with this whole 200-400 ft structural spire thing just to hold their design in higher standings on the tallest buildings list. I'm not really impressed by CITC tower. I hope we get a better iconic looking skyscraper for our next #1 super tall. America is behind the middle east, and Asia on super talls(300m - 1000ft), and hyper talls(600m - 2000ft). We can only up from here in Center City, and U city.
This is a very exciting plan and with real momentum. Brandywine broke ground on a ~350ft apartment building on JFK, Drexel & Brandywine ready to break ground on a life sciences building at 31st & Market, and hopefully Brandywine will get enough tenant interest for the 500ft+ tower further west on JFK (the cool red blocky tower).
Philadelphia is already a top life sciences hub, but it can solidify itself as top 3 in North America if leaders keep riding this wave.
For CITC. It is not my favorite tower, but it did grow on me, AND even if people do not like the design, it is an extremely high-end building and viewing the façade up close shows the attention to detail and top exterior finishes. The building did not cheat on height, the lantern is a part of the building. Where is talk of the World Trade Center, Empire State Building, Hancock Tower, etc., they all have antennas.
Of course I want more trophy towers in CC and U City, but the tall building contest is not my biggest concern. I want Philadelphia to attract more residents, more high paying jobs, fill in parking lots, improve the streetscape, etc. Supertalls are nothing more than a bragging contest, and we already have one, and a chance for another in the coming decade or two.
I want Philadelphia to attract more residents, more high paying jobs, fill in parking lots, improve the streetscape, etc
And, it will, believe me. When creative and iconic structures are built it brings on loads of jobs. Both white collar, and blue collar alike. It's not just about tallest competition although I do personally like that stuff. It also brings in more attraction, and tourism (Observation deck). Imagine nothing was built over Will Penn. We'd still be in the1800s. A major city must look like one! With all the scenery there's also attraction built around it. Things that make ppl wanna stay, and bring in more residents. Philly was built to maintain a population of 2.0-2.5 million people. I think within 5-10 years with is growth rate it will be at least 1.7mil. They just have to keep building up the low rises apartments. But, when you bring residence they need attraction/recreation. (Off topic)I think PHA was stupid to do away with low rises because it would fit more people. Anyways, the more you build the more jobs will be presented. Look at the casino and hotels for example. The SLS on south Broad that's a major deal hotel from Vegas. The streets dept also started street sweeping again. That's a big deal to get the filth off the street as far as street scape improvement. It must start there first. They've been improving bike lanes, and repaving streets. That's a start!
And, it will, believe me. When creative and iconic structures are built it brings on loads of jobs. Both white collar, and blue collar alike. It's not just about tallest competition although I do personally like that stuff. It also brings in more attraction, and tourism (Observation deck). Imagine nothing was built over Will Penn. We'd still be in the1800s. A major city must look like one! With all the scenery there's also attraction built around it. Things that make ppl wanna stay, and bring in more residents. Philly was built to maintain a population of 2.0-2.5 million people. I think within 5-10 years with is growth rate it will be at least 1.7mil. They just have to keep building up the low rises apartments. But, when you bring residence they need attraction/recreation. (Off topic)I think PHA was stupid to do away with low rises because it would fit more people. Anyways, the more you build the more jobs will be presented. Look at the casino and hotels for example. The SLS on south Broad that's a major deal hotel from Vegas. The streets dept also started street sweeping again. That's a big deal to get the filth off the street as far as street scape improvement. It must start there first. They've been improving bike lanes, and repaving streets. That's a start!
And to clarify, I am all for A+ architecture. Philadelphia is one of the few architectural gems in the USA, and sadly, most new buildings nowadays do not live up to that stature. I don't think CITC is a good example since that is a high quality building even if its note everyone's aesthetic. I am more talking the metal panel crap that goes up left and right, and the dumb archaic zoning that withstands in certain parts of the city.
But overall I agree with your post, Philadelphia is certainly on the up, and the momentum doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
And, it will, believe me. When creative and iconic structures are built it brings on loads of jobs. Both white collar, and blue collar alike. It's not just about tallest competition although I do personally like that stuff. It also brings in more attraction, and tourism (Observation deck). Imagine nothing was built over Will Penn. We'd still be in the1800s. A major city must look like one! With all the scenery there's also attraction built around it. Things that make ppl wanna stay, and bring in more residents. Philly was built to maintain a population of 2.0-2.5 million people. I think within 5-10 years with is growth rate it will be at least 1.7mil. They just have to keep building up the low rises apartments. But, when you bring residence they need attraction/recreation. (Off topic)I think PHA was stupid to do away with low rises because it would fit more people. Anyways, the more you build the more jobs will be presented. Look at the casino and hotels for example. The SLS on south Broad that's a major deal hotel from Vegas. The streets dept also started street sweeping again. That's a big deal to get the filth off the street as far as street scape improvement. It must start there first. They've been improving bike lanes, and repaving streets. That's a start!
Oops! You missed a pivot on Carl Dranoff's part.
SBE pulled out of the deal with the tower at Broad and Spruce. That building, modified slightly from its original design, is now a pure residential structure called the Arthaus.
I believe, however, that Dranoff also announced a proposal to replace the garage at the NE corner of Broad and Pine with a mid-rise building containing a mid-range hotel.
SBE pulled out of the deal with the tower at Broad and Spruce. That building, modified slightly from its original design, is now a pure residential structure called the Arthaus.
I believe, however, that Dranoff also announced a proposal to replace the garage at the NE corner of Broad and Pine with a mid-rise building containing a mid-range hotel.
O yea, I forgot. SLS would have been awesome. Now that the W is wrapping up, Philadelphia needs another fancy hotel concept. Like SLS, Edition, Peninsula, etc.
SBE pulled out of the deal with the tower at Broad and Spruce. That building, modified slightly from its original design, is now a pure residential structure called the Arthaus.
I believe, however, that Dranoff also announced a proposal to replace the garage at the NE corner of Broad and Pine with a mid-rise building containing a mid-range hotel.
It looks like I did. I have an account on CTBUH, but I can't seem to log in because it wants be retarded. Lol I usually follow up on every major development throughout the city. When I was able to sign in the last I saw was SLS. So, thank you for the update. At least, we have two Casinos, and one being a hotel. When the football, baseball, basketball seasons are lit they're gonna rack revenue. I don't like skyscraperpage.com because that site updates too slow that's why I was behind. It still has our population set at 1.526 when we're actually 1.590 according to world population review.
And to clarify, I am all for A+ architecture. Philadelphia is one of the few architectural gems in the USA, and sadly, most new buildings nowadays do not live up to that stature. I don't think CITC is a good example since that is a high quality building even if its note everyone's aesthetic. I am more talking the metal panel crap that goes up left and right, and the dumb archaic zoning that withstands in certain parts of the city.
But overall I agree with your post, Philadelphia is certainly on the up, and the momentum doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
How do you think the rising crime will factor in to Philly's momentum? And this is a serious question from someone who loves living here and is hoping to buy a house in the city soon. I recommend Philly to everyone, love the architecture here, and it's where I want to stay.
All that said, it's concerning when there's occurrences such as the triple shooting last night at 13th and Lombard in Center City - 2 blocks from me. I know as well as anyone that these are targeted shootings and most citizens are at very little risk, but 30 shots being fired in an affluent neighborhood right by City Hall is what drives away taxpayers and has a real impact on a city's potential. This year there have been shootings in Queens Village, Spring Garden, Old City, etc. Again, I am hoping to stay here but genuinely want to know the opinion of those more knowledgeable. It seems like headlines such as "Philly is named most dangerous large city" could easily hamper the interest in a new super-tall.
I think the crime factor absolutely will slow the momentum in the city. Residents and businesses are not feeling all that supported by the city government. That needs to be clear in order for people to feel comfortable making the investment or staying. Of course, that is my opinion.
It's not just crime either, look at the hardships that the city government is putting on people like landlords. I was speaking with somebody yesterday who just sold their 5 unit building. He has been a landlord in the city for 28 years.
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