What don't you like about Philly ? (York, Somerset: renting, crimes, safe area)

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by lajones

I enjoy visting Philadelphia but I despised living there. It was segregated and a lot of the people were rude and racist. It is the only major city that is still as bad as the 1950's. It will take a long time to recover from it's racist and unaccepting past.

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[mancat100]

Originally Posted by lajones

I enjoy visting Philadelphia but I despised living there. It was segregated and a lot of the people were rude and racist. It is the only major city that is still as bad as the 1950's. It will take a long time to recover from it's racist and unaccepting past.

Do you have empirical data to back up your "1950's" assessment? If not, then you are a troll.

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by mancat100

I'm laughing as I read your reponse. Here's why. When I wrote the statement that you were replying to, I was really drunk and sitting in Little Petes eating a greasy omelet. Two things stand out. First, my spelling was really good after all that beer. Second, never reply to somebody in a non-sober state. Rotodome, I was way more combative than necessary and you're right about Germantown. It really is a mix.

Haha word. I had been up basically all night (note the times on my posts) and was a little crabby myself.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by lajones

What is your problem? Philadelphia is an ok city for visiting once in a while but I don't like the quality of life because it is segregated. I lived in an all white community outside of Philadelphia and it was not enjoyable. The people are not as accepting and not as open minded as the people I live with now. Stop making assumptions and being ignorant.

I never claimed Philadelphia was paradise, but statements like "It is the only major city that is still as bad as living in the 1950s" are hyperbolic and objectively wrong.

PS, if Philly is the 9th-most segregated metro in the country, that means there are eight other American metros with worse segregation problems.

You also fail to realize that those counties are very rapidly diversifying.

[mancat100]

Originally Posted by lajones

Study: Philly's 9th most-segregated metro in U.S. | Philly | 03/29/2011
Philadelphia was ranked 9th in the Top 10 Most Segregated Metros.
PA Counties
Bucks County 89.2% White
Chester County 85.5% White
Delaware County 72.5% White
Montgomery County 81.1% White.
Those are very white counties. While other major metros have changed, the Philadelphia metro has stayed the same.

Okay. Now please provide the 1950's data for comparison.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by mancat100

Okay. Now please provide the 1950's data for comparison.

He's wont, because all those counties were nearly 100% white back then.

[couldntthinkofaclevername]

Originally Posted by lajones

I enjoy visting Philadelphia but I despised living there. It was segregated and a lot of the people were rude and racist. It is the only major city that is still as bad as the 1950's. It will take a long time to recover from it's racist and unaccepting past.

Hold on a minute here.

You said in your post on the "NJ/Philly metro racist?" that you grew up in the SUBURBS.

That's not Philly.

Which suburbs did you grow up in exactly? The borough I grew up in (in UD township) was mostly all-white 15 years ago. Now it's barely even a white majority, if that. UD proper has been majorly non-white for at least five years. Darby too.

UD township: (81,000+ people in 2000, gained almost 1,000 since then).. 2000- 77.3% white, 11.3% AA; 2010- 56.6% white, 27.5% AA Inside the township, officially: Drexel Hill(which itself has almost 30,000 people): 2000- 93% white, 2% AA; 2010- 85.6% white, 7.7% AA

Springfield township: 2000- 94.6% white, 0.5% AA; 2010- 93.4% white (most of the white people from the other areas moved to places like Springfield), 1.8% AA... Morton (inside Springfield township): 2000- 86.87% white, 7.47% AA; 2010- 65% white, 25.4% AA

Ridley township: 2000- 96.97% white, 0.26% AA; 2010- 90% white, 5.7% AA

Darby township: (not borough, township) 2000- 36.35% AA, 62.9% white; 2010- 39.2% AA, 55.5% white

Aldan: 2000- 93.3% white, 4.34% AA; 2010- 75.2% white, 18.5% AA

Clifton Heights: 2000- 94.22% white, 2.92% AA; 2010- 82.3% white, 11.4% AA (this isn't including Westbrook Park, where I'm sure the numbers are similar.)

Darby borough: 2000- 36.37% white, 60% AA; 2010- 16.2% white, 79% AA

Lansdowne: 2000- 75.1% white, 12.3% AA; 2010- 47.1% white, 45% AA

East Lansdowne: (can't find the 2000 census data so we'll just use '10) 30.5% white, 56% AA

Yeadon: 2000- 15.56% white , 79.77% AA; 2010- 7.5% white, 89% AA

Milbourne: 2000- 21.31% white, 17.18 AA; 2010- 13.7% white, 20.1% AA

Haverford Township: 93.99% white, 2.12% AA; 2010- 91.2% white, 2.7% AA

Those are just the easiest townships to find off of the Upper Darby Wikipedia page too. Just go to this site: 2010 Demographic Profile and use the tool.

Oh, and here's the numbers for the county as a whole: 2000- 80.32% white, 14.52% AA; 2010- 72.5% white, 19.7% AA

It's segregated by money, not race.

Originally Posted by lajones

Study: Philly's 9th most-segregated metro in U.S. | Philly | 03/29/2011
Philadelphia was ranked 9th in the Top 10 Most Segregated Metros.
PA Counties
Bucks County 89.2% White
Chester County 85.5% White
Delaware County 72.5% White
Montgomery County 81.1% White.
Those are very white counties. While other major metros have changed, the Philadelphia metro has stayed the same.

There's 500,000+ people in Delaware County, and that's even with the massive dessertion of the inner-ring and working class Delco (which if you add up the peak populations of just that, it adds up to 450,000+ people). It's as diverse as the city itself, and every bit as segregated, though that's changing with the amount of middle-class non-white families these days.

I'm sorry but you flat out do not know what you are talking about if you think Delco is racist these days outside of ritzy areas. There are tensions in the inner-ring, yes, but they have nothing to do with race so much as where the people of a certain race are coming from and what they are bringing with them.

Take a stroll into say, Lansdowne sometime. It's probably the most non-racist diverse area in the whole inner-ring.

Also, I'd really love to see how many of the "diverse" or "segregated" metros you're comparing us to have some of the largest populations of every kind of non-English and non-French "white" outside of their countries themselves.

[couldntthinkofaclevername]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

He's wont, because all those counties were nearly 100% white back then.

Actually, it's a she. Read her post in the "Philadelphia/NJ Metro area racist?" thread.

I admit that back then, it certainly was like that. You can see by the numbers I just put up on the post above this that pretty much every area that didn't directly border Philly or Chester or something similar was almost 100% white (even though it was mostly Irish/Italian, etc)

I have to tell you, if I had grown up when I did as a minority instead of as a white kid, I definitely wouldn't have had as great a childhood. Even in places where it's not racist, it's never fun to be the only person like you and stick out so much.

[Padugan]

This is what I don't like about Philthadelphia.

^-this was taken on Friday afternoon. Note all the garbage from the people eating on the wall.

below was taken this morning. Two days later, garbage still remains. Actually the garbage that remains is what hasn't blown down Wharton or 9th street, yet.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by Urbanite11

So has anybody else ever felt a sort of undercurrent ? Besides the poverty and crime, (which exist in most urban areas, I know) what's going on here that I can't put my finger on ? And what don't you like about Philly ?

Philly is a really small, big city. I would move back if every social event I attended didn't some how transform into a mini Central HS Reunion. I have friends from New York who grew up in Queens, moved to Midtown after college, and it's like they're living in a completely different universe. You're not gonna get that moving from Germantown to Center City. That's the thing I dislike most about Philly. In a city of 1.5 million people, I can't seem to avoid the 200 or so I grew up with.