"Germantown's obvious, yet elusive, potential" (Philadelphia, Erie: transfer, safe neighborhood)

[Hillrunner]

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

Yes I know, the message you sent me said it all. There is no reason to have legitimate discussions with people that think in such simple terms.

I heard they were building beautiful cookie cutters in the suburbs of the exurbs. White only, of course. You should look into that, you'd be safe, or maybe not.

Is there something wrong with white only?

[havealee]

Originally Posted by Hillrunner

Is there something wrong with white only?

I think there's something wrong with "anything only".

[Hillrunner]

Originally Posted by havealee

I think there's something wrong with "anything only".

So in other words there is something wrong with likeing only certain things? So when did you learn that you must like everything ?

[havealee]

Originally Posted by Hillrunner

So in other words there is something wrong with likeing only certain things? So when did you learn that you must like everything ?

It is different to say I want to live in an area that is quiet, conservative, professional or a party town or an artistic area or whatever it is that you like. Saying I want to live in a white only area, black only area, Asian only area, whatever race only area I find to be very bizarre, the statement seems to say that if you're white then you must be x,y,z or that if you're black, then you must be x,y,z. Last time I checked people are people and just because someone is my same race it doesn't translate into we like the same things. I won't necessarily like a neighborhood because the people in it, look like I do.

[Hillrunner]

Originally Posted by havealee

It is different to say I want to live in an area that is quiet, conservative, professional or a party town or an artistic area or whatever it is that you like. Saying I want to live in a white only area, black only area, Asian only area, whatever race only area I find to be very bizarre, the statement seems to say that if you're white then you must be x,y,z or that if you're black, then you must be x,y,z. Last time I checked people are people and just because someone is my same race it doesn't translate into we like the same things. I won't necessarily like a neighborhood because the people in it, look like I do.

So your thoughts are precluded by many judgements. I find it bizarre that your liking or disliking something are the same but for the exception of people. You espouse the notion of people wanting to live with their own people as being bizarre. It's actually a learned behavior. So I see you have an issue with individuals or people who invoke cultural identity, tradition or self preservation as bizarre.

[havealee]

Originally Posted by Hillrunner

So your thoughts are precluded by many judgements. I find it bizarre that your liking or disliking something are the same but for the exception of people. You espouse the notion of people wanting to live with their own people as being bizarre. It's actually a learned behavior. So I see you have an issue with individuals or people who invoke cultural identity, tradition or self preservation as bizarre.

I don't think you understood what I said.

What do you mean when you say their own people?

Also, self-preservation? That seems like a bit of an exaggeration. Last time I checked white isn't a culture, but I could be very wrong. I have no problem with tradition or culture, the thing is that just because we both share the same skin color doesn't mean that we share anything else. That was my point.

My white neighbors (all of my neighbors are white) spend all day listening to loud music, smoking blunts, having fights, one time one of their friends broke their car window, the cops come here several times over them (only because of them), my white neighbors where I lived before where pretty much like this too. My other white neighbors are unemployed drug addicts who got their kids taken away by the state. Not all of my neighbors are like that, but I think maybe now I'm illustrating my point more clearly.

I find the area where I live to be predominantly white, but I absolutely dislike the people here. If someone was asking me how would you like the people in your area to be? Their race wouldn't be in my answer, but I'd say things like: people who appreciate/support the arts, spend time outdoors, environmentally conscious, healthy, involved with their community, friendly, peaceful, etc. I don't see how race translates into any of these things.

[havealee]

Sorry for derailing the thread everybody .

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by havealee

Sorry for derailing the thread everybody .

It wasn't you.

[havealee]

Originally Posted by rotodome

It wasn't you.

It takes two to tango?

Anyways, I'm not familiar with Germantown so I don't have anything to add to this thread, but I'm always curious to read what people familiar with an area have to say about it. I thought the article was very interesting too.

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by rotodome

Yeah, the only trouble with that I think, is that the part of Germantown Ave between Wayne Junction and Broad & Erie isn't really part of Old Germantown Township, and has a different character (and would one really want to tackle Nicetown, as part of this? Yikes!) Why not just keep the 23 as a bus from Wayne Junction to all points south?

I agree, a "German Township" trolley would be best.
Would Septa ever consider having the trolleys feed into the Broad Street Line or even the RR tracks at Wayne Junction? Is this even possible?
I know in SW Philly the trolleys work this way where they go underground at a certain point.