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Ghettos are ghettos, but what is cool to see how much cheaper the apts are like got daMN, theres nice places with washer/dryer in unit for only like $950 in what looks like decent n'hoods
in nyc that'd only get you some ... box in south bronx
im in North Jers and Im paying like... $1200 a month without my own w/d.
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Reason: watch the language
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"I'm firing squad hard, you *****z should know better"
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So like what are the worst hoods again? I wan see them when I visit so I know what I might have to deal with
If I come through at day time, would anybody start sh1t? Should I carry a gun just in case?
So like what are the worst hoods again? I wan see them when I visit so I know what I might have to deal with
If I come through at day time, would anybody start sh1t? Should I carry a gun just in case?
You really have no reason to go into any bad areas of Philadelphia. If you do go into a bad area, you should be fine, you would not need a gun, just keep a look out. I've walked through North Philly plenty of times with a 3 grand camera taking pictures for work and I was never bothered. It's all about how you present yourself. A lot of people are actually very very nice in the ghetto. Just avoid any loitering groups of young teens and you should be fine. It's the teens that usually cause the trouble, not the adults.
Why don't you check out the nice areas of Philly and get to know the city before you explore more? I guarantee that most people who live in the city will spend their entire days in the city not journeying into a ghetto area once.
If you really want to check out the ghetto areas for some reason than be my guest but if you lived in say Center City or University City or South Philly or Lower North Philly or Northwest Philly or Northeast Philly, you would not be going through the ghettos. Make sense?
The worst areas are in North Philly, BY FAR.
This will help you out the most. It was a "safety map" created in 2010. It is two years old and some things have changed since then, so it is slightly outdated, but it's probably the closest to accuracy you can get. The red and orange areas are ghettos. The green and yellow areas are nice and okay areas.
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o thas cool
i wasn't really planning to walk there, jus to drive through, but i didn't know if someone'd try to jack me at a light or someth
and yea i hear ya bout not having to go there much, but what if i meet some people from there and have to go there to see them
i mean i had that happen b4 when i was kicking it with some people in newark and also in east ny in brooklyn and south jamaica in queens, which are not the best areas
o thas cool
i wasn't really planning to walk there, jus to drive through, but i didn't know if someone'd try to jack me at a light or someth
and yea i hear ya bout not having to go there much, but what if i meet some people from there and have to go there to see them
i mean i had that happen b4 when i was kicking it with some people in newark and also in east ny in brooklyn and south jamaica in queens, which are not the best areas
Ahh, gotcha. Thing about Philly though that is different from New York is not EVERYONE goes to Center City. Most people stay in their own neighborhoods. So odds are if you go to a club or bar in Center City, you won't meet anyone from North Philly. Anyone from the ghetto parts of North Philly probably couldn't afford to go to most Center City bars anyways.
You live in Newark right now right? If you're fine in Newark you'll be fine in Philly lol. Philly has much more nicer areas than Newark does and the nicer areas are much larger. The ghettos are very similar in Newark and Philly and the crime rates are also pretty similar if I'm not mistaken. The only area i truly ever really avoid is the bad parts of North Philly. The ghetto areas of West and Southwest Philly really aren't that bad and are still intact for the most part. Nothing like North Philly.
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Originally Posted by Summersm343
Ahh, gotcha. Thing about Philly though that is different from New York is not EVERYONE goes to Center City. Most people stay in their own neighborhoods. So odds are if you go to a club or bar in Center City, you won't meet anyone from North Philly. Anyone from the ghetto parts of North Philly probably couldn't afford to go to most Center City bars anyways.
You live in Newark right now right? If you're fine in Newark you'll be fine in Philly lol. Philly has much more nicer areas than Newark does and the nicer areas are much larger. The ghettos are very similar in Newark and Philly and the crime rates are also pretty similar if I'm not mistaken. The only area i truly ever really avoid is the bad parts of North Philly. The ghetto areas of West and Southwest Philly really aren't that bad and are still intact for the most part. Nothing like North Philly.
I'm in Jersey City, not that different from Newark though
I guess might as well visit Camden too lol
Ahh, gotcha. Thing about Philly though that is different from New York is not EVERYONE goes to Center City. Most people stay in their own neighborhoods. So odds are if you go to a club or bar in Center City, you won't meet anyone from North Philly. Anyone from the ghetto parts of North Philly probably couldn't afford to go to most Center City bars anyways.
You live in Newark right now right? If you're fine in Newark you'll be fine in Philly lol. Philly has much more nicer areas than Newark does and the nicer areas are much larger. The ghettos are very similar in Newark and Philly and the crime rates are also pretty similar if I'm not mistaken. The only area i truly ever really avoid is the bad parts of North Philly. The ghetto areas of West and Southwest Philly really aren't that bad and are still intact for the most part. Nothing like North Philly.
Southwest Philly? Not that bad? You've got to give me a break. The ghetto sections of Southwest Philly are really bad. Just because an area doesn't have as much decay as the worst areas of North Philly doesn't mean it's not that bad
Summersm343, in the Philadelphia safety map you referenced earlier, Kingsessing (a ghetto section of Southwest Philly) was colored red. I know that map was made a couple years ago, but Southwest Philly hasn't improved (and has probably declined) since then.
Why do you keep underestimating ghetto areas of the city? Last time, it was Frankford. Just because an area doesn't look as visually bad as Strawberry Mansion doesn't mean it's not a high-crime, dangerous neighborhood.
Southwest Philly? Not that bad? You've got to give me a break. The ghetto sections of Southwest Philly are really bad. Just because an area doesn't have as much decay as the worst areas of North Philly doesn't mean it's not that bad
Summersm343, in the Philadelphia safety map you referenced earlier, Kingsessing (a ghetto section of Southwest Philly) was colored red. I know that map was made a couple years ago, but Southwest Philly hasn't improved (and has probably declined) since then.
Why do you keep underestimating ghetto areas of the city? Last time, it was Frankford. Just because an area doesn't look as visually bad as Strawberry Mansion doesn't mean it's not a high-crime, dangerous neighborhood.
?? I never underestimated Frankford... clearly stated it was not nearly as bad as the worst in North Philly... and Kingsessing is really the only terrible area of Southwest Philly. Most of the other neighborhoods are okay People make all of Southwest out to be terrible. I'm not underestimating anything. I even clearly was comparing it to North Philadelphia... Southwest Philly is not anywhere near as bad as North Philadelphia. And Kingsessing is nowhere near as bad as the worst in North Philly. You do realize out of 186 homicides committed throughout the first half of the year, 102 of those were committed in North Philadelphia alone? IDC what you THINK, but all the other areas people claim to be terrible are really not that terrible when comparing them to North Philly. When you look at the actually statistics and break down of serious crimes committed in each area, North Philly is by far the worst and nothing in the city comes close to it.
Break down of murders when there was 170 in early June
Center City- 0
University City - 1
South Philadelphia- 14
Southwest Philadelphia- 14
West Philadelphia- 18
Riverwards (Kensignton)- 4
Lower North Philadelphia- 53
Upper North Philadelphia- 33
Olney/Oak Lane- 15
Upper Northwest Philadelphia (Germantown- all murders in this section have occurred in Germantown)- 4
Lower Northwest Philadelphia- (Manayunk/Roxborough)- 0
Near Northeast Philadelphia- 13
Far Northeast Philadelphia- 1
Something stand out to you?
Last edited by Summersm343; 07-20-2012 at 03:47 AM..
Oh okay. Camden waterfront has some redeeming values. The rest of Camden, not so much.
The downtown has some amazing architecture in parts as well. I saw a thread of photos the other day that Nexis4NJ posted awhile back from a trip on their Riverline.
If you're going to check out Camden then you might as well check out Chester too. While you're there, check out PPL Park on the waterfront where the Union play.
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Originally Posted by jtom605
Southwest Philly? Not that bad? You've got to give me a break. The ghetto sections of Southwest Philly are really bad. Just because an area doesn't have as much decay as the worst areas of North Philly doesn't mean it's not that bad
Summersm343, in the Philadelphia safety map you referenced earlier, Kingsessing (a ghetto section of Southwest Philly) was colored red. I know that map was made a couple years ago, but Southwest Philly hasn't improved (and has probably declined) since then.
Why do you keep underestimating ghetto areas of the city? Last time, it was Frankford. Just because an area doesn't look as visually bad as Strawberry Mansion doesn't mean it's not a high-crime, dangerous neighborhood.
While I will agree that the look of a neighborhood can often fool people into thinking it's better or maybe even worse than it really is, most of those neighborhoods didn't go through anywhere near what North Philly went through, and they hopefully never will.
Kingsessing is poised to get better I think. Gentrification continues to push westward, getting closer to its eastern boundary every year. The Apple Lofts at 52nd and Willows will be within Kingsessing. That should hopefully provide a boost to propel gentrification further west. The rest of Southwest though, yeah.. it's definitely getting worse. Then again, you have to remember that the majority of places that have been getting worse in the city haven't been stable since the late 90s/early 2000s. Even before that, the factors that led these neighborhoods to destabilize in the first place had been in the background for awhile before they came out in the open.
As far as crime statistics go, I personally feel that shootings and aggravated assault or attempted murder are much better indicators of the level of crime in an area. People can get killed in so many ways that it doesn't make sense to lump all murders together.
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