Pro and cons of living in Philly ? (Philadelphia, King of Prussia: high crime, how much)

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by do sum'n

o ok so basically unless u got kids and schools are an issue, there is no point to live in the burbs? cuz seems even for calmer pace philly got some laid back nhoods like mt airy so its kinda suburban but still close to action
or unless u work in the burbs obviously

One thing is that a large number of jobs in the Philly area are located in the suburbs (partly because of tax issues). Many people reverse-commute from their homes in the city, to their jobs in the suburbs. Those people currently pay the wage tax, but would entirely avoid it if they lived in the suburbs.

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by rotodome

One thing is that a large number of jobs in the Philly area are located in the suburbs (partly because of tax issues). Many people reverse-commute from their homes in the city, to their jobs in the suburbs. Those people currently pay the wage tax, but would entirely avoid it if they lived in the suburbs.

Double indemnity...having to live in the city,paying their taxes and having no advantages of the suburbs...

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by rotodome

One thing is that a large number of jobs in the Philly area are located in the suburbs (partly because of tax issues). Many people reverse-commute from their homes in the city, to their jobs in the suburbs. Those people currently pay the wage tax, but would entirely avoid it if they lived in the suburbs.

Center City, Philadelphia- 279,412 employees
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/SOCC2013.pdf

University City, Philadelphia- ~70,000 employees
The State of University City 2012/13

King of Prussia, PA- 55,000 employees (not including surrounding large business districts such as Conshohocken and Bala Cynwyd)
http://www.visitkop.com/wp-content/u...nualReport.pdf

No. Center City still has the highest concentration of jobs. Obviously the suburbs are going to have more jobs overall, because the suburbs are so much larger on every metric (population and land area). For what city is that not true?

Also, there are 253,000 workers who commute into the city for work everyday, and 147,000 who reverse commute to the suburbs. So you are incorrect.
Commuters to Phila. easily outnumber those leaving city, figures show - Philly.com

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by Truth11

Double indemnity...having to live in the city,paying their taxes and having no advantages of the suburbs...

Having to live in the suburbs, paying higher property taxes, more on gas and car expenses and having none of the advantages of the city (nightlife, transit, cultural amenities, walk-ability, shopping, top notch restaurants, etc.)

See what I did there?

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by Truth11

Double indemnity...having to live in the city,paying their taxes and having no advantages of the suburbs...

Not sure I follow that logic. Unless you're saying people are being FORCED to live in the city, and don't do so because they personally see some advantages to living there.

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Center City, Philadelphia- 279,412 employees
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/SOCC2013.pdf

University City, Philadelphia- ~70,000 employees
The State of University City 2012/13

King of Prussia, PA- 55,000 employees (not including surrounding large business districts such as Conshohocken and Bala Cynwyd)
http://www.visitkop.com/wp-content/u...nualReport.pdf

No. Center City still has the highest concentration of jobs. Obviously the suburbs are going to have more jobs overall, because the suburbs are so much larger on every metric (population and land area). For what city is that not true?

Also, there are 253,000 workers who commute into the city for work everyday, and 147,000 who reverse commute to the suburbs. So you are incorrect.
Commuters to Phila. easily outnumber those leaving city, figures show - Philly.com

"No?"
Who are you arguing with? Did you just copy/paste that from another thread? What did I state that was in any way untrue?

Are you taking issue with the word "many"? 147,000 seems like "a large number", or "many" to me.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by rotodome

"No?"
Who are you arguing with? Did you just copy/paste that from another thread? What did I state that was in any way untrue?

Are you taking issue with the word "many"? 147,000 seems like "a large number", or "many" to me.

But the overwhelming majority still commute into the city. Far more than reverse commuters. I would assume most cities have reverse commuters to the suburbs.

The way you worded it seemed like you didn't know. Just informing you. Philadelphia still has the overwhelming amount of employees.

Philadelphia Employment- 570,612
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Montgomery County Employment- 400,239
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Chester County Employment- 224,631
Chester County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Camden County Employment- 167,916
Chester County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Percentage of Downtown Office Space in Metro:

1. San Francisco- 71.29%
2. New York- 69.56%
3. Chicago- 55.45%
4. Seattle- 40.67%
5. Boston- 36.08%
6. Washington D.C.- 31.51%
7. Philadelphia- 27.57%
8. Atlanta- 23.19%
9. Houston- 19.35%
10. Baltimore- 17.76%
11. Denver- 16.65%
12. Los Angeles- 14.57%

There aren't many cities with higher concentrations of employment Downtown than Philadelphia
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/...employment.pdf

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

But the overwhelming majority still commute into the city. Far more than reverse commuters. I would assume most cities have reverse commuters to the suburbs.

The way you worded it seemed like you didn't know. Just informing you. Philadelphia still has the overwhelming amount of employees.

Philadelphia Employment- 570,612
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Montgomery County Employment- 400,239
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Chester County Employment- 224,631
Chester County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Camden County Employment- 167,916
Chester County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Percentage of Downtown Office Space in Metro:

1. San Francisco- 71.29%
2. New York- 69.56%
3. Chicago- 55.45%
4. Seattle- 40.67%
5. Boston- 36.08%
6. Washington D.C.- 31.51%
7. Philadelphia- 27.57%
8. Atlanta- 23.19%
9. Houston- 19.35%
10. Baltimore- 17.76%
11. Denver- 16.65%
12. Los Angeles- 14.57%

There aren't many cities with higher concentrations of employment Downtown than Philadelphia
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/...employment.pdf

LOL are you a robot, who just posts big lists of random statistics in response to posts, just based on keywords??

If you were reading the thread, you would see that my post was in response to someone who didn't previously understand how the wage tax worked, and didn't see how there could be any tax advantages to anyone living in the suburbs. There obviously are, and I pointed out the most glaring, and very common, scenario as one example.

You then calling me "incorrect", and then posting a big list random statistics to show... something unrelated... is a total non-sequitur in the context of the thread.

If you are travel in professional circles in Philadelphia, and you aren't acutely aware of how many of the region's prime jobs are located in the suburbs, and how many people commute out to work at them, then I don't know what to tell you.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by rotodome

LOL are you a robot, who just posts big lists of random statistics in response to posts, just based on keywords??

If you were reading the thread, you would see that my post was in response to someone who didn't previously understand how the wage tax worked, and didn't see how there could be any tax advantages to anyone living in the suburbs. There obviously are, and I pointed out the most glaring, and very common, scenario as one example.

You then calling me "incorrect", and then posting a big list random statistics to show... something unrelated... is a total non-sequitur in the context of the thread.

If you are travel in professional circles in Philadelphia, and you aren't acutely aware of how many of the region's prime jobs are located in the suburbs, and how many people commute out to work at them, then I don't know what to tell you.

What are you on about man? Lol. Why are you getting all defensive? Someone asked you about the wage tax so you state something about jobs not locating in the city? I posted proof that what you said is not entirely correct. Philadelphia still has the most jobs put of any county. More people commute to the city than reverse commute and Philadelphia fairs well compared to practically every US as far as retaining jobs within the central city. So yes, what you said was incorrect to an extent. I was just letting you know. Idk why people get so salty when they're corrected. You want to continue spouting off incorrect information? Also, my friends who live in the city, work in the city. I know one person who I met through this forum who reverse commutes. The others all work in the city

[rotodome]

Please specifically show me the incorrect information that I posted (NOT your rewording/interpretation of what you think I posted). Thank you kind sir.

I think you may have mistaken this for a city-vs-city forum thread, which it is not.