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Old 04-24-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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Will keep you posted as things progress.


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Reston, I would like your opinion on Philadelphia as and when you visit.

Like I said, Philadelphia metro and DC metro are our finalists.

Phildelphia seemed like a nice place the last time we were there. Not as booming as DC metro, but nice.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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So you think all of Baltimore is ghetto-fied crap? Funny, some say the same about DC, but far from the truth.

Unfortunately, career wise, it seems Philly would offer little hope in the defense contracting field.

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I lived in Wilmington, Delaware, so not quite Philly. I also lived in Durham, NC for school, which is not quite Raleigh.

I've been to downtown Philly, driven through Baltimore. So I'm not an expert on the areas but I've been exposed to them.


Of my opinion though on living on the outer rims of the areas of Raleigh and Philly and having driven through downtown Baltimore, if I had to rank the 3:

1. Raleigh
2. Philly
3. Baltimore

Baltimore: I wouldn't even consider Baltimore. It's ghetto-fied crap. A good analogy.....Baltimore is to D.C. as Oakland is to San Francisco. Don't do it.

Philadelphia: Now Philly has a lot of hit and miss, so unlike Baltimore it has redeeming qualities. Some super fancy spots, some ghettos. If you're a big urbanite, I'd consider this possibly over Raleigh.

Raleigh: Cheaper than Philly, better weather, doubt you can compare I-40 to I-95 in terms of traffic. Also has a lot of universities and tech hubs around. The East Coast equivalent of the Silicon Valley. Lot of nature to explore. Cary is a really ritzy suburb near Raleigh. People are probably nicer too, but every person is their own story.


Basically, I think it comes down to Philly vs. Raleigh. If you're a big urbanite, I don't think Raleigh will fulfill your needs. Otherwise, I'd go with Raleigh.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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Good feedback, which is why we are leaning towards Baltimore from preliminary information given MD allowing gay marriage, the available jobs for our fields, the smaller city size compared to Philly, weather more neutral than Philly and Raleigh, etc.


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Last poster knows nothing about Baltimore... by his own admission, he's "driven through" and is willing to call it "ghetto-fied crap." By those same standards, so is Philly. I've never lived in Baltimore and know for a fact there are many nice neighbourhoods and lots of great suburbs. Like Philly, the city is filled with ghettos, but that's most U.S. cities for you.

If you're gay, why would you want to live in North Carolina, which denies rights to gays? You should live in NJ and deal with the high taxes because the state is actually progressive. Collingswood NJ would be a good choice, right on the PATCO line to get into Center City. I have lived in both Raleigh and Philly and speak from experience that people in NC are very conservative. The younger generation not so much, but you will still find a lot of right-wingers down there.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Expatriate Philadelphian in Northern Virginia
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Good feedback, which is why we are leaning towards Baltimore from preliminary information given MD allowing gay marriage, the available jobs for our fields, the smaller city size compared to Philly, weather more neutral than Philly and Raleigh, etc.
Good point about MD regarding the imminent marriage equality. I don't see that happening in PA anytime soon, notwithstanding likely relatively strong support for it in Philadelphia.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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Default One of these things is not like the others (Raleigh!)

If your are interested cookie-cutter sunbelt sprawl, go to a Raleigh. It will most resemble NOVA.

If you are interested in an urban environment, Baltimore or Philly would be your choice. My partner and I explored both when considering where to re-locate from Houston and as you can see, we ended up in Philly. We had three big problems with Baltimore:
1) The downtown area away from the touristy harbor is pretty dead and uninteresting.
2) The harbor, while attractive, basically cuts the city in two. The neighborhoods you might want to live in ring the harbor (from Federal Hill to Canton), are disjointed and there is not good transit connecting them. You will need a car to get around.
3) Property is less expensive but property taxes are outrageous.

Philly is urban, walkable, vibrant, and easy to live in without a car. In terms of culture, restaurants, entertainment and the glbt community, it is heads and tails above Baltimore. Don't get me wrong: Balto is one of my faves to visit, but it's not a place I would live for the reasons outlined above.

Best of luck!
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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If your are interested cookie-cutter sunbelt sprawl, go to a Raleigh. It will most resemble NOVA.

If you are interested in an urban environment, Baltimore or Philly would be your choice. My partner and I explored both when considering where to re-locate from Houston and as you can see, we ended up in Philly. We had three big problems with Baltimore:
1) The downtown area away from the touristy harbor is pretty dead and uninteresting.
2) The harbor, while attractive, basically cuts the city in two. The neighborhoods you might want to live in ring the harbor (from Federal Hill to Canton), are disjointed and there is not good transit connecting them. You will need a car to get around.
3) Property is less expensive but property taxes are outrageous.

Philly is urban, walkable, vibrant, and easy to live in without a car. In terms of culture, restaurants, entertainment and the glbt community, it is heads and tails above Baltimore. Don't get me wrong: Balto is one of my faves to visit, but it's not a place I would live for the reasons outlined above.

Best of luck!

^ This hits the nail on the head.

And when anyone tells you that an area is "dead" that's a red flag. I was told Wilmington, Delaware was dead at night before I moved there. That's because the hoodlums and shady characters come out and scare off your typical upstanding law-abiding citizen.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Agree

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Good point about MD regarding the imminent marriage equality. I don't see that happening in PA anytime soon, notwithstanding likely relatively strong support for it in Philadelphia.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Job market is also a key factor for us and defense contracting is not happening in Philly, Baltimore on the other hand would be ideal.

Likewise, we realize downtown Baltimore would be quite after 6pm which is why it is important to find a balance.

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^ This hits the nail on the head.

And when anyone tells you that an area is "dead" that's a red flag. I was told Wilmington, Delaware was dead at night before I moved there. That's because the hoodlums and shady characters come out and scare off your typical upstanding law-abiding citizen.
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA (University City)
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Good feedback, which is why we are leaning towards Baltimore from preliminary information given MD allowing gay marriage, the available jobs for our fields, the smaller city size compared to Philly, weather more neutral than Philly and Raleigh, etc.
I understand your other points, but don't go to Baltimore suspecting substantially different weather from Philly. A given day will be ~3 degrees warmer, but rainfall, snowfall, and humidity will be almost exactly the same.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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Good point!

Average temp in January:
Philly 32'
Baltimore 37'
Raleigh 39'

Average temp in July:
Philly 77'
Baltimore 81'
Raleigh 79

One key factor for us: Same Sex Marriage

Philly - No marriage license or recognition, no other relationship or its recognition from other jurisdictions for same-sex couples.

Raleigh - No marriage license or recognition, no other relationship or its recognition from other jurisdictions for same-sex couples.

Baltimore - On March 1, 2012, Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed the bill legalizing same-sex marriage.






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I understand your other points, but don't go to Baltimore suspecting substantially different weather from Philly. A given day will be ~3 degrees warmer, but rainfall, snowfall, and humidity will be almost exactly the same.
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