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Old 04-27-2014, 05:29 PM
FBJ
 
Location: Tall Building down by the river
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If Billy Penn's hat is 547' high, and no building built in Philadelphia before March 1987 was higher than his hat, consider that NYC had over 90 buildings higher than Billy's hat before 1987. NYC has even demolished the 600' Singer building in 1968.

Chicago had 31 buildings (6 of them pre WWII).

I know height is not everything, but that is a lot of catching up to do.

And the sad part is this city didn't have a skyline in the early 80's
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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And the sad part is this city didn't have a skyline in the early 80's
Sure it did.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:25 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Sure it did.

It was a sad skyline before the Liberty Buildings came, that was evident in the Rocky movie
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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If Billy Penn's hat is 547' high, and no building built in Philadelphia before March 1987 was higher than his hat,...
Count of buildings 547' or higher opened in 1986 or earlier (including demolished buildings)
93 New York City
31 Chicago
20 Houston
13 Dallas
11 Los Angeles
11 San Francisco
6 Boston
5 Atlanta
5 Pittsburgh
4 Minneapolis
3 Denver
3 Seattle
2 Cleveland
2 Columbus
2 Detroit
2 Fort Worth
2 New Orleans
2 Tulsa
1 Albany
1 Cincinnati
1 Kansas City
1 Miami
1 Milwaukee
1 St. Louis
1 Tampa


So by the time the gentleman's agreement was broken in Philadelphia, most major cities in the country had a head start on high buildings.
Even in the early years (1970 or earlier) there was a handful of buildings across the country (outside of NYC or Chicago).


Completed | Height (ft) Building Name - City
1927 | 556 Leveque Tower - Columbus
1928 | 708 Terminal Tower - Cleveland
1928 | 568 Penobscot Building - Detroit
1931 | 574 Carew Tower - Cincinnati
1932 | 582 Gulf Tower - Pittsburgh
...
1954 | 602 Gables Republic Tower - Dallas
1959 | 550 Sheraton Dallas Hotel Central Tower - Dallas
1963 | 606 ExxonMobil Building - Houston
1964 | 750 Prudential Tower - Boston
1964 | 598 Republic Center Tower II - Dallas
1965 | 628 Elm Place - Dallas
1967 | 620 611 Place - Los Angeles
1967 | 565 44 Montgomery - San Francisco
1967 | 556 State of Georgia Building - Atlanta
1969 | 779 555 California Street - San Francisco
1969 | 630 Safeco Plaza - Seattle
1970 | 841 U.S. Steel Tower - Pittsburgh
1970 | 714 One Shell Plaza - Houston
1970 | 601 BNY Mellon Center at One Boston Place - Boston
1970 | 569 One Embarcadero Center - San Francisco

First tower over 1000' outside of big two cities
1982 | 1002 JPMorgan Chase Tower - Houston
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Philly is GORGEOUS! i want to live there for a while when im older
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:59 PM
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Philly is GORGEOUS! i want to live there for a while when im older
I felt the same about Chicago
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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Philly is construction 1,121 foot comcast innovation center
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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Maybe... possibly. NYC has what 4 right now? And two are under construction? Three world trade is being topped out at 7 floors because they can not find tenants to fill it. Two world trade isn't even beginning to rise. New York City is having problems finding tenants and you think Jersey City.... let me say that again... Jersey City. You think JERSEY CITY will have 8 supertalls in 8 years? HAHAHAHA. Get out of here. I bet you that supertall proposal for Journal Square won't be built by 2020. It will die just like that last supertall proposal did for Jersey City. I'm all for development for Jersey City... but you my friend are delirious. Jersey City can MAYBE compete with Pittsburgh, but even Pittsburgh has a bigger skyline than Jersey City... Philly just destroys Jersey City. No offense or anything but that's reality man.
Idk about 8 supertalls, but ground has already broken for the Hudson st supertall, and the JSQ development is in full swing. Plus, the Hudson Yards area and the Harmonious cove area are both starting to see some vertical development, thus filling in a lot of the gaps. Its not up to par with Philly yet, but its really not that unfeasible.
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:05 PM
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I just read something about how Philly has less speculative skyscrapers being built than other cities. Philly would literally have to become an "it" city similar to San Francisco or Seattle to start a large boom in construction. Although,... Atlanta is kind of an it town but there hasn't been a huge boom there.
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Old 06-09-2019, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I just read something about how Philly has less speculative skyscrapers being built than other cities. Philly would literally have to become an "it" city similar to San Francisco or Seattle to start a large boom in construction. Although,... Atlanta is kind of an it town but there hasn't been a huge boom there.
The reason there are just about no office towers being built on spec here is because the rents won't even cover the cost of replacing them.

I'm not sure Philly should become an "it" city either. I've read some comments to the effect that our slow-growth economy is actually a good thing because the city "neither booms nor busts."
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