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Old 02-17-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The only people I wouldn't really trust are the members of the City Council. Some of them care about the city but then there are more than a few who only care about politics. Seeing the glowing, positive PhillyMag (or maybe it was CityPaper) piece on Darell Clarke made me sick. It seems to be the (easy, lazy) popular thing to do these days is to scapegoat Nutter and talk like anything different from him would be a positive or like everything he does is a mistake.

Ah, here it is: Darrell Clarke Is Not Michael Nutter | Philadelphia Magazine Articles

What most annoys me is that despite the way he has basically bent over backwards for newcomers (at the expense of long-time Philly people), those newcomers always act like he has either done nothing for them or bent over backwards for others at their expense whenever he does something they don't like. That was my whole problem with some of the posts on this thread. They showed a clear lack of perspective.
Darrell Clarke has been pretty sleazy. The ridiculous Templetown situation comes to mind where he tried to ban student housing around Temple However, I can FULLY support his new bill I just posted above. I feel like sometimes he just tries to please the residents of his district in North Philadelphia but doesn't actually expect to pass the bills but instead just say he "tried."
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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Perhaps Lincoln Steffens no longer holds true after all, eh?
I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. I don't know how a guy like Darrell Clarke would become Council President in a city that wasn't corrupt.

Summersm: The way I see Darrell Clarke is as somebody who even the "good" things he does, he does for the wrong reasons.

Lord help the city if he ever becomes Mayor.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:32 AM
 
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Yeah, yeah..........we city residents have heard this before. Nutter needs to stop talking about it and start making these deadbeats pay up.

To those of you saying this makes you happy, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yeah, yeah..........we city residents have heard this before. Nutter needs to stop talking about it and start making these deadbeats pay up.

To those of you saying this makes you happy, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.
I agree that a degree of "wait and see" is appropriate, but it does seem like there's an actual plan this time, which gives me some hope.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Yeah, yeah..........we city residents have heard this before. Nutter needs to stop talking about it and start making these deadbeats pay up.

To those of you saying this makes you happy, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.
I agree with you 100%! When I start seeing people being held accountable and taxes being collected, then I will start jumping for joy. I have seen to many great projects fall to the waste side. LOL! The last 3 tax hikes were suppose to be temporary
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Oh negadelphians. How you make me laugh
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I agree with you 100%! When I start seeing people being held accountable and taxes being collected, then I will start jumping for joy. I have seen to many great projects fall to the waste side. LOL! The last 3 tax hikes were suppose to be temporary
I would hardly call AVI a tax hike.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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I would hardly call AVI a tax hike.
Who said it was a tax hike ? If you own a home then I'm sure you know . There have been 3tax hikes while Nutter has been Mayor.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Who said it was a tax hike ? If you own a home then I'm sure you know . There have been 3tax hikes while Nutter has been Mayor.
Actually I've had property tax hikes 4 years in a row, excluding AVI.

AVI IS a TAX HIKE! If it makes a homeowners mortgage payments higher, then it's a tax increase.

I think Summers must be a city worker. As far as being a Negadelphian....what's wrong with people criticizing what is going on right now?

Even though I would prefer not to move for the foreseeable future, I will if necessary.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Actually I've had property tax hikes 4 years in a row, excluding AVI.

AVI IS a TAX HIKE! If it makes a homeowners mortgage payments higher, then it's a tax increase.

I think Summers must be a city worker. As far as being a Negadelphian....what's wrong with people criticizing what is going on right now?

Even though I would prefer not to move for the foreseeable future, I will if necessary.
AVI is a reassessment of properties. Not a tax hike. There is a difference.

And no... I don't work for the city actually.

SO because I don't overact and threaten to move out of the city and call it a horrible place and call everyone in city council "corrupt" means I must work for the city? You must've been hanging out with Frank too much. Maybe I can just think logically instead of jumping to conclusions.

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AVI has occasionally been described as a “tax.” It isn’t a tax; it’s a policy for citywide property assessment
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It’s certainly true that many residents will see their taxes go up — but that doesn’t make AVI a “tax hike.”
Philadelphia’s City Council has the power to adjust the city’s tax rate, currently about 13%. Because the latest citywide reassessment meant that the total value of property citywide is suddennly much higher than it used to be, Council is expected to lower that rate. The mayor has proposed that Council adjust the rate so as to raise exactly the same amount of revenue from property taxes as was raised this year, without AVI.
Council, of course, could choose to raise more or less money from whatever new rate it sets — but Nutter’s plan means that while individuals’ taxes might go up or down, the transition to AVI itself would be revenue-neutral.
http://axisphilly.org/article/avi-my...isperceptions/

AVI is revenue neutral. Know what that means? Clearly not. That means it's not a tax hike. Some property taxes are going up, but some are going down, and some aren't changing at all. That doesn't sound like a tax hike to me. It's really an initiative to make everything fair, and to make sure all properties are paying their fair share in taxes. There is no reason why a $600k home in G-Ho should be paying less in property taxes than a $180k in Northeast Philadelphia.

...and I don't want to hear that tax delinquency nonsense because paying $600 in property taxes on a $600k home IS TAX DELINQUENCY.

Use your brain. I know you have one.

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