Standing Issues (Philadelphia, Swarthmore, Bryn Mawr: city hall, renters, violent crime)

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Truth11

And how long do you think those people will stay? Check the stats on that

They will stay as long as kids don't come along. Like my boss's Son who makes $200k and lived in Rittenhouse square till he got married last year. Now he lives in Richboro expecting their first child. He told me "I would have to be out of my mind to raise a child there"
True story

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

IDK, guess we'll all see if the city is still gaining population in 2020... if City Council doesn't ruin everything by then

IDK why you and Frank WANT to see the city fail and decline... it's kind of scary.

NO ONE wants to see Philly fail. Like truth said, if they can accomplish those 4 standing issues that are hurting Philly, I am SURE it will be a great place to live. Everyone wants to live in a safe, clean area with great schools.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

NO ONE wants to see Philly fail. Like truth said, if they can accomplish those 4 standing issues that are hurting Philly, I am SURE it will be a great place to live. Everyone wants to live in a safe, clean area with great schools.

Technically, all the city has to do is rework the tax structure to reduce the business privilege tax and the wage tax which will attract businesses to the city. More jobs= more educated residents= more great schools= significant reduction in crime rates.

They are TRYING to do just that.

[frankgn87]

that would be a win-win for everyone

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

They will stay as long as kids don't come along. Like my boss's Son who makes $200k and lived in Rittenhouse square till he got married last year. Now he lives in Richboro expecting their first child. He told me "I would have to be out of my mind to raise a child there"
True story

However, there are people who ARE staying and raising their kids in the city and clamoring to get their kids into Meredith, Masterman, Penn Alexander and some other great Center City schools. Just because someone views the city as a bad place to raise a child, doesn't mean EVERYONE does. If done right, the city can be a fantastic place to raise a child. Lastly, it is a COUNTRY WIDE consensus that raising children in a city is a no-no. People move to cities all around the country until they have children then they move to the suburbs... a lot of people even tend to move back into the city after their kids move out and they become "empty nesters." it is certainly not something unique to Philadelphia. For instance, San Francisco, one of the countries most praised and beloved cities (for whatever reason) has the lowest child population of any major city (per-capita).

Maybe the U.S. should utilize European and Asian ideals to have more successful cities.

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Technically, all the city has to do is rework the tax structure to reduce the business privilege tax and the wage tax which will attract businesses to the city. More jobs= more educated residents= more great schools= significant reduction in crime rates.

Not for nothing,but Pennsylvania is pretty much based on a blue collar mentality...old education is secondary and also state wages are pretty low in general. Perhaps you were referring to mostly college education;

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by Truth11

Not for nothing,but Pennsylvania is pretty much based on a blue collar mentality...

I agree. I've always said... "Most of Philadelphia's shortcomings come from being within the state of PA." But judging by the way NJ treats it's cities, I doubt being in NJ would be much better.

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

I agree. I've always said... "Most of Philadelphia's shortcomings come from being within the state of PA." But judging by the way NJ treats it's cities, I doubt being in NJ would be much better.

How does NJ treat it's cities...and why would you bring up NJ of all places? Have you ever lived there?

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by Truth11

How does NJ treat it's cities...and why would you bring up NJ of all places? Have you ever lived there?

What does that have to do with anything? Sensitive topic with you?

All I was saying is that if Philadelphia was given to NJ (because PA is a pretty bad business state), would it be any better? Trenton, Camden, AC, Newark, Jersey City are all in the dumps. The only reason JC is seeing any development and gentrification is it's proximity to Manhattan. I'm not bashing Jersey, and wouldn't mind living in a place like Collingswood or Hoboken. It just could treat it's cities better and concentrate job growth in the cities rather than in the suburbs (which would result in some shiny new highrises )

[Truth11]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

What does that have to do with anything? Sensitive topic with you?

All I was saying is that if Philadelphia was given to NJ (because PA is a pretty bad business state), would it be any better? Trenton, Camden, AC, Newark, Jersey City are all in the dumps. The only reason JC is seeing any development and gentrification is it's proximity to Manhattan.

Not sensitive at all,just curious. If you're trying to push my buttons it ain't gonna work I'm not blindly loyal to NJ...

Btw in a way Camden and AC are connected to Philly,as Newark & JC is to NYC...you could say NJ is kind of one big suburb