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Old 01-29-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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I've been researching something on West Montgomery in the 1880s, near the Wagner Institute. I was told that prior to the consolidation in 1854 it was part of Penn Twp. Does anyone know if there was ever a neighborhood name after the consolidation? If so, would it have gone by that name in the 1880s?

I do know that it was residential & I was told that the housing stock was twins.
I am way out of my league with my knowledge of Philadelphia history but it looks to me the area you described, along with Temple University, was at one time part of the Penn District, which in turn was one time part of Penn Township. Penn District was approx. between Fairmount and Susquehanna Avenues.

Penn District, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To the South, Penn District met the Spring Garden District (also orginially part of Penn Township).

Spring Garden District, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Penn Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I started looking up the nearby local neighborhood names; Ludlow, Francisville, Poplar, Sharswood etc. to see if they once extended into the area. But it is hard to get good historical information quickly, especially from the wickapedia sites on Philadelphia neighborhoods.

Another possibility, and this is just a total guess, is that the area around Temple was somewhat rural and it did not gets its own strong idenity right away.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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I am way out of my league with my knowledge of Philadelphia history but it looks to me the area you described, along with Temple University, was at one time part of the Penn District, which in turn was one time part of Penn Township. Penn District was approx. between Fairmount and Susquehanna Avenues.

Penn District, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To the South, Penn District met the Spring Garden District (also orginially part of Penn Township).

Spring Garden District, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Penn Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I started looking up the nearby local neighborhood names; Ludlow, Francisville, Poplar, Sharswood etc. to see if they once extended into the area. But it is hard to get good historical information quickly, especially from the wickapedia sites on Philadelphia neighborhoods.

Another possibility, and this is just a total guess, is that the area around Temple was somewhat rural and it did not gets its own strong idenity right away.
Thanks.

It's been difficult. Mr Wagner was still alive until 1885. When he moved to his property, it was rural. I saw something on him that he conducted lectures for adults but enjoyed teaching neighborhood children. Apparently, he was a draw for kids. My research does not concern him directly, but I chased him down for information on the development of the area.

According to what I found, it was a good neighborhood in the 1880s. Not wealthy, but possibly middle class or upper middle class. . . It's kind of a puzzle why the twins were town down & replaced with standard row homes. I wasn't able to determine exactly when the twins were built, but I think that it was post Civil War.
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