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Old 05-01-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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so murders in an area don't count if the murderer don't live there. Tell that to the murdered persons family..
Be more honest, Frank. That is not what he is saying whatsoever. He's talking about assessing the safety of a neighborhood relative to such variables and not how meaningful the murder is based off of where it was committed.
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Okay. Leave off the last sentence.

so murders in an area don't count if the murderer don't live there.. Is that what he is saying?

"the perpetrator came from another county. He was just a visitor. So technically eliminating that homicide, we can conclude that Rittenhouse is a safe area" is his quote. Is he saying that since the perp did not live there (but the murder did happen there) that you can't count that murder.. so that area has no murders? really? Did I miss something
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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No, the murders count statistically of course, but they are not relevant to the safety index of the area. If a man comes in from California and kills someone in your town, and it is the only murder there committed all year, that doesn't make your town a dangerous place.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It makes sense Frank. The numbers count statistically but it's not a good judge on the safety of the area. Like Cnote said, if someone comes from say Camden into your town, and murders someone, does that suddenly mean your neighborhood is unsafe? No. Now North Philadelphia, where residents of your own neighborhood are shoot people, that is an unsafe neighborhood.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Well, April is over:

So far, there are 81 homicides in the city this year, down from 111 this time last year. This is still the lowest amount of murders we have had in DECADES.

Murders to date going back to 2007:

2012: 111
2011: 109
2010: 93
2009: 93
2008: 101
2007: 134

Month Breakdown
January- 20
February- 11
March-19
April- 31
May (so far)- 0


Philadelphia District Breakdown



File:PhilaDistrict.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Center City- 3
University City- 0
South Philadelphia- 6
Southwest Philadelphia- 7
West Philadelphia- 12
Riverwards (Kensington)- 11
Lower North Philadelphia- 14
Upper North Philadelphia- 14
Olney/Oak Lane- 7
Upper Northwest (Germantown)- 2
Lower Northwest (Manayunk/Roxborough)- 0
Near Northeast- 5
Far Northeast- 0

Core Neighborhood Breakdown

Link to core neighborhood boundaries
Philadelphia Core Neighborhoods - Google Maps

Center City
Penn Center- 0
Rittenhouse Square- 1
Fitler Square- 0
Avenue of the Arts- 0
Logan Square- 0
Washington Square West- 0
Society Hill- 0
Old City- 0
Market East- 0
Chinatown- 0
Loft District- 0
Franklintown- 1
Chinatown North- 0
Callowhill- 0
Penn's Landing- 1

South Philadelphia
Queen Village- 0
Bella Vista- 0
Hawthorne- 0
Graduate Hospital- 0
Pennsport- 0
Dickinson Narrows- 3
Wharton- 0
Passyunk Square- 0
East Passyunk Crossing- 0
Newbold- 0
Point Breeze- 2
Gray's Ferry- 0
West Passyunk- 0
Whitman- 1
Moyamensing- 0
Girard Estate/Wilson Park- 0
Marconi Plaza- 0
Packer Park- 0

West Philadelphia
University City- 0
Woodland Terrace- 0
Spruce Hill- 0
Clark Park- 0
Squirrel Hill- 0
Southwest Cedar Park- 0
Cedar Park- 0
Garden Court- 0
Walnut Hill- 0
Powelton Village- 0
West Powelton- 0
Mantua- 0
Dunlap- 0
Haverford North- 0
Mill Creek- 0
Belmont- 0
Cathedral Park- 0
East Parkside- 0
West Parkside- 0

Lower North Philadelphia
Fairmount- 0
Spring Garden- 0
Francisville- 2
Spring Arts- 0
Poplar- 0
Northern Liberties- 0
West Poplar- 1
Brewerytown- 0
Templetown- 0
Sharswood- 0
Yorktown- 0
Ludlow- 0
Norris Square- 1
Olde Kensington- 0
Hartranft- 0

Riverwards
Fishtown- 0
Kensington- 0
West Kensington- 7
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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No, the murders count statistically of course, but they are not relevant to the safety index of the area. If a man comes in from California and kills someone in your town, and it is the only murder there committed all year, that doesn't make your town a dangerous place.
No one said one word about society hill being dangerous.. . The point is that a murder is a murder no matter who did it... They all count.. correct?
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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No one said one word about society hill being dangerous.. . The point is that a murder is a murder no matter who did it... They all count.. correct?
He was talking about the woman who was killed in Rittenhouse Square. No one was murdered in Society Hill
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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No one said one word about society hill being dangerous.. . The point is that a murder is a murder no matter who did it... They all count.. correct?
Yes they count, Frank. That certainly wasn't the point being made in the post you replied to. Once again, asiandudeyo was speaking in respect to how to measure the safety of an area based upon murder statistics.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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No one said one word about society hill being dangerous.. . The point is that a murder is a murder no matter who did it... They all count.. correct?
What is going on with this forum and the mayor plays a part in it also. It`s the old "as long as you stay out of North Philly and some parts of west Philly,you will be ok" That`s why no one posts about robbery and assault or rape.
Like the guys that are running around Old City and Fishtown robbing people at gun point.

This is how easy it is for an assault to turn into murder.
Philly man sentenced in Old City beating death - Philly.com

They are real fast to talk about how murders are down,but they don`t tell you rape is up 20%. It`s all about smoke and mirrors with some people.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:03 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Default 18 year old shot

Teen critical after being shot in Southwest Philadelphia | 6abc.com
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