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Old 04-23-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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or is North Philly where the ghetto starts going from Center City? The area near University City in West Philly is one of the most attractive urban neighborhoods I've seen. From the housing stock (more decor on the outside, bigger house sizes) it's clear it was intended as a wealthier neighborhood than even the decent sections of North Philly.
North Philadelphia has some amazing stuff. Everyday I take the bus down Erie Avenue, or anywhere in between Girard and Erie, I get bouts of jealousy at not having lived 100 years ago and seen it in all of its glory.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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North Philly does not have an answer for Spruce Hill and the immediate surrounding area. Don't say Oak Lane because that's not North Philly (in the same way that Overbrook Farms is not West Philly).
The answer to Spruce Hill is Fairmount. And yes, Oak Lane IS North Philadelphia and yes Overbrook IS West Philadelphia... what is wrong with you guys?

North Philadelphia is split into three sections- Lower North Philadelphia, Upper North Philadelphia and Olney/Oak Lane District...

...the same way the Northwest is split into two sections, Upper and Lower Northwest and the Northeast is split into three sections, Far Northeast, Near Northeast and the Riverwards.

Here, educate yourselves:
List of Philadelphia neighborhoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The answer to Spruce Hill is Fairmount. And yes, Oak Lane IS North Philadelphia and yes Overbrook IS West Philadelphia... what is wrong with you guys?

North Philadelphia is split into three sections- Lower North Philadelphia, Upper North Philadelphia and Olney/Oak Lane District...

...the same way the Northwest is split into two sections, Upper and Lower Northwest and the Northeast is split into three sections, Far Northeast, Near Northeast and the Riverwards.

Here, educate yourselves:
List of Philadelphia neighborhoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I dispute Oak Lane's inclusion in North Philly. It's actually north of North Philly. Also, Fairmount is very nice, but its blocks of fairly plain brick rowhomes don't quite match Spruce Hill's houses. I also maintain that Fairmount's inclusion in North Philly is a mere technicality - kind of like Guam's inclusion in the United States.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Drexel Hill/Lansdowne
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I've always thought of Center City ending at Spring Garden (being a former Masterman student in the 80's, I always felt that Masterman and CCP was in what is considered Center City)


but yeah, West Philly>>>North Philly


and remember when East Oak Lane was like 90% white and somewhat affluent...even as late as the early 90's
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:45 PM
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I dispute Oak Lane's inclusion in North Philly. It's actually north of North Philly. Also, Fairmount is very nice, but its blocks of fairly plain brick rowhomes don't quite match Spruce Hill's houses. I also maintain that Fairmount's inclusion in North Philly is a mere technicality - kind of like Guam's inclusion in the United States.

I believe Fairmount is just called the Fairmount section of Philadelphia
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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As far as I'm concerned... these are the neighborhoods that are generally considered North Philadelphia
North Philadelphia Neighborhood Map - Google Maps

Some may consider West Oak Lane, Stenton and Cedarbrook to be in Northwest Philadelphia, some consider it as a part of North Philadelphia.
I know those areas are technically part of North Philly but I feel that claiming West Oak Lane, Cedarbrook, and even Olney as part of North Philly is sort of like saying Southwest Philly is part of West Philadelphia.

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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The answer to Spruce Hill is Fairmount. And yes, Oak Lane IS North Philadelphia and yes Overbrook IS West Philadelphia... what is wrong with you guys?

North Philadelphia is split into three sections- Lower North Philadelphia, Upper North Philadelphia and Olney/Oak Lane District...

...the same way the Northwest is split into two sections, Upper and Lower Northwest and the Northeast is split into three sections, Far Northeast, Near Northeast and the Riverwards.

Here, educate yourselves:
List of Philadelphia neighborhoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My impression is that Olney and the Oak Lanes are not part of North Philadelphia, but their own distinct sections. The misconception lies in the fact that they are north of North Philadelphia, and has been furthered somewhat by the decline they have seen, and even more furthered by the fact that a lot of young new Philadelphians think if they go past Girard Avenue they'll fall off the edge of the earth. If anything, Olney and the Oak Lanes probably have a greater connection to NW or NE respectively....but that's still a stretch, in my opinion.

The Riverwards being part of the Northeast is also something I'd disagree with. There's the Lower Northeast and the Upper Northeast - and the Riverwards are its own distinct section based on older municipalities such as the Kensington and Northern Liberties District, Aramingo, Bridesburg.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Where do they belong then? The city is split up into sections. Center City, South Philadelphia, Southwest Philadelphia, West Philadelphia, North Philadelphia, Northwest Philadelphia and Northeast Philadelphia. If those neighborhoods (Olney, Oak Lane, Cedarbrook) are not in North Philadelphia, where are they? I can see someone arguing that West Oak Lane and Cedarbrook are in Northwest Philly, but what about Olney? East Oak Lane? Every single thing I posted seems to back up what I am suggesting yet you guys are still second guessing where these neighborhoods are. Where is Fairmount if it's not in North Philadelphia? Center City? No. Spring Garden is the absolute northern border of Center City. Fairmount is in North Philadelphia. Where is Overbrook if it's not in West Philadelphia? Is it in Montgomery County? IDK why this is so hard for you guys.

Neighborhoods
Center City
Avenue of the Arts
Callowhill/Loft District/Chinatown North
Chinatown
Fitler Square
Franklintown/Museum District
Logan Square
Market East
Old City
Penn Center
Penn's Landing
Rittenhouse Square
Society Hill
Washington Square West

West Philadelphia
Belmont
Belmont Village
Carroll Park
Cathedral Park
Cedar Park
Clark Park
Cobbs Creek
Dunlap
Garden Court
Haddington
Haverford North
Mantua
Mill Creek
Overbrook
Overbrook Farms
Overbrook Park
Parkside East
Parkside West
Powelton Village
Saunder's Park
Spruce Hill
Squirrel Hill
University City
Walnut Hill
Woodland Terrace
Wynnefield
Wynnefield Heights

North Philadelphia
Brewerytown
Fairhill
Fairmount
Francisville
Hartranft
Ludlow
North Central
Northern Liberties
Poplar
Sharswood
Spring Garden
South Lehigh
Strawberry Mansion
Templetown
West Poplar
Yorktown
Allegheny West
Glenwood
Hunting Park
Nicetown-Tioga
Olde Kensington
Norris Square
East Oak Lane
Feltonville
Fern Rock
Logan
Ogontz
Olney
West Oak Lane

Northwest Philadelphia
Chestnut Hill
Germantown
Morton
Wister
West Oak Lane
Cedarbrook
Stenton
East Mt. Airy
Andorra
East Falls
Manayunk
Roxborough
Wissahickon
West Mt. Airy

List of Philadelphia neighborhoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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My impression is that Olney and the Oak Lanes are not part of North Philadelphia, but their own distinct sections. The misconception lies in the fact that they are north of North Philadelphia, and has been furthered somewhat by the decline they have seen, and even more furthered by the fact that a lot of young new Philadelphians think if they go past Girard Avenue they'll fall off the edge of the earth. If anything, Olney and the Oak Lanes probably have a greater connection to NW or NE respectively....but that's still a stretch, in my opinion.

The Riverwards being part of the Northeast is also something I'd disagree with. There's the Lower Northeast and the Upper Northeast - and the Riverwards are its own distinct section based on older municipalities such as the Kensington and Northern Liberties District, Aramingo, Bridesburg.
Olney/Oak Lane district is just a subset of North Philadelphia, just like Lower North Philadelphia and Upper North Philadelphia... the Riverwards are just a subset of Northeast Philadelphia, just like the Near Northeast and the Far Northeast are subsets....and Upper Northwest and Lower Northwest are subsets of Northwest Philadelphia, and University City is a subset of West Philadelphia.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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There are some free-standing neighborhoods that don't fall into the directionally-named regions. Fishtown (arguably part of Kensington) and Oak Lane are two of them.
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