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Old 05-28-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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Hi -

Mulling over choices for relocation. Male couple from NYC, looking to have kids (eventually, aka soon), and at least one of us will be working in Camden NJ. We've found that the income tax and proprety tax issues with Southern NJ make PA burbs a more attractive option; however, we hear that the commute from the Main Line towns into Center City, and even worse, over the Ben Franklin Bridge, is a big game changer. We are curious to hear thoughts about towns that may work better or worse for this commute --or if we're crazy to even entertain that commute being doable. No, we don't want to sit in a car for hours on end each day standing still.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Mount Laurel
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Hi -

Mulling over choices for relocation. Male couple from NYC, looking to have kids (eventually, aka soon), and at least one of us will be working in Camden NJ. We've found that the income tax and proprety tax issues with Southern NJ make PA burbs a more attractive option; however, we hear that the commute from the Main Line towns into Center City, and even worse, over the Ben Franklin Bridge, is a big game changer. We are curious to hear thoughts about towns that may work better or worse for this commute --or if we're crazy to even entertain that commute being doable. No, we don't want to sit in a car for hours on end each day standing still.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
If one person is working in Camden and the other working in CC = Don't commute from Main Line.

You are probably better off finding a place in SJ and preferebly near PATCO so one can commute into CC. Why? The possible higher RE tax in SJ isn't going to feel so bad with the offset of the city wage tax.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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I would check out Collingswood NJ. It has a lovely downtown, good schools, large LGBT community, short commute to Camden and Center City by car or train (PATCO). Haddon Twp is next door and a bit cheaper. Haddonfield is very nice but pricey.

Commuting from Media PA to Cherry Hill for instance can be 1hr plus. More if there is an accident/construction.
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Expatriate Philadelphian in Northern Virginia
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I concur with the previous two posters. Using Bryn Mawr (roughly the "midpoint" of the Main Line) as an example, a map search predicts 29 minutes to Camden with no traffic, and 38 minutes in current mid-afternoon pre-rush hour traffic. Odds are the commute would approach an hour during rush hour. I think the psychic toll that would take on the Camden commuter would be worse than paying "extra" property taxes.
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Old 05-28-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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You could try Center City itself. There are good schooling options in Center City and surrounding area. If one of you is going to be working in the city, and one in Camden, it would be worth it. There aren't any PA suburbs that would provide for an easy relaxing commute to Camden unless you live in Bucks County, drive to the Riverline train station in Burlington, NJ, and take the riverline down to Camden. However, if it is your wife working in Camden, I wouldn't want her to be sitting at a train station waiting for the riverline home. I've been hassled numerous times by bums and crackheads waiting for the riverline. The PATCO line is more manageable because more people take it.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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Commuting from Media PA to Cherry Hill for instance can be 1hr plus. More if there is an accident/construction.
This isn't true, in my experience.

In rush hour traffic it takes less than a half hour (almost always less than 25 minutes) to get from the Media/Swarthmore exit on the Blue Route (476) over the Walt Whitman bridge. From there it's a quick shot up 676 into Camden.

The return is a little tricker, and depends on whether or not the Phillies are in town. When they are, you have the option of taking 295 south from the Cherry Hill area and going over the Commodore Barry Bridge back to Media. Still no more than 40 minutes in rush hour traffic.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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Thanks so much for the replies.

We wouldn't look to go any further North than Bryn Mawr for sure, and likely want to stay closer to Bala Cynwyd, if PA Burbs are an option. Media looks so far on a map, but maybe a different route makes more sense.

As far as NJ, yes, we're looking into Collingswood and the Haddons - as we call them. What's the difference between Haddonfield, Haddonfield Heights and Haddon Township?

Frankly, from what I've seen, the houses are more expensive in PA Burbs, but they're cheaper in the South Jersey side. So, some of the difference is just made up in how to spend the same money (i.e., we could probably get around the same thing for the same budget -- it's just a long term issues with taxes versus house investment).
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:18 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Hi -

Mulling over choices for relocation. Male couple from NYC, looking to have kids (eventually, aka soon), and at least one of us will be working in Camden NJ. We've found that the income tax and proprety tax issues with Southern NJ make PA burbs a more attractive option; however, we hear that the commute from the Main Line towns into Center City, and even worse, over the Ben Franklin Bridge, is a big game changer. We are curious to hear thoughts about towns that may work better or worse for this commute --or if we're crazy to even entertain that commute being doable. No, we don't want to sit in a car for hours on end each day standing still.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Make no sense. The good schools are in NJ too. The taxes are no different then the good parts of pa. You should be looking at Moorestown, Delran, Cinnaminson. TRUST me on this.. A long commute is no fun
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Make no sense. The good schools are in NJ too. The taxes are no different then the good parts of pa. You should be looking at Moorestown, Delran, Cinnaminson. TRUST me on this.. A long commute is no fun
Right, because you know, the PA side has no good schools

Best schools in the metro:

Number 1 is in Philadelphia: Masterman
Out of the top ten, 9 are on the PA side. One is on the NJ side: Haddonfield, ranked number 6

Out of the top 100 schools in the metro, 20 are in NJ. 80 are in PA

The Top 100 Philadelphia-Area Public Schools 2012 | Philadelphia Magazine Articles

You're right though Frank, the good schools are in NJ. Keep up with your nonsense.

And the taxes are different, you just have no idea what you are talking about. On average, NJ pays more in taxes then PA. Doesn't matter how you look at it. We proved this to you before, you just refuse to accept it.

The only thing I agree with you on is the long commute, but keep it to that. You don't need to make crap up and lie.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:42 PM
 
Location: M.D. Pa.
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I know some people who do it, but I personally wouldn't. You'd probably be looking at 45 minutes during rush hour, so while you can do a lot worse, you can certainly do a lot better. Haddonfield is the most Main Line-like town on the Jersey side of the river, and is pretty much a hop, skip, and a jump to Camden--especially if your job is convenient to Patco.

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Right, because you know, the PA side has no good schools
I think he was saying the New Jersey public schools are good as well, not that South Jersey is better than SEPA.
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