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Old 01-23-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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To whom? Skyscraper fetishists and other insular wierdos? Why is 1,000 ft more impressive than 996 ft? I mean other than the obvious fact that it's 4 more feet? And that can't be your position because if you want 1,000 ft simply because it's 4 more ft than 996 ft then logically won't you then want it to be 1,004 ft, and then subsequently 1,008 ft and on and on to infinity?

The reason why eclipsing 1,000 ft is important is only due to the fact we have a base 10 system and have randomly determined that a certain distance can be measured as 1 foot. All of this is man-made construct however. It's in our brains. It's not real. So while you may think going from 996 - 1,000 ft is a big deal. It is not. In reality going 4 extra feet simply means that the building will a tiny bit taller and when that height is put into perspective with the height of the building? It's literally nothing, and I mean literally, the difference of 4 ft when put into perspective of 1,000 ft building is statistically insignificant.

And even if you do have ocd and want to obsess over the numbers, despite how meaningless they are, as many have pointed out, the important number is not 1,000 ft but rather 300 meters anyway. And this building eclipses that 300 meter mark need to be considered a super tall. Not to mention the fact that officially ( like it or not ) the spire is a part of physical structure of the building and the official height of the building is 1,121 ft, far above 1,000 ft anyway.

So for those moaning about the height and wishing for 4 more feet. They are complaining about nothing, about total utter nonsense. What's real is how the building looks, and adding or subtracting 4 ft wouldn't noticeable change that appearance. What's real is how many people will be able to use that building, how many jobs building it will create, how this project will inject so much cash and people and excitement into this city. I'm "freaking out" because this is the best news to hit Philadelphia in decades and instead of celebrating, people (and not just those in this forum but people all over this city) are astoundingly finding so much to complain about. The negativity is getting really old. You don't need an underdog mentality anymore, I've been to cities all of the world and this one right here is a truly a world class city that is only getting better. Everyone can remove the chip from their shoulders and give the cruddy old attitude a rest.
Dude....YOU took that Ish waaaay to personally.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Dude....YOU took that Ish waaaay to personally.
Sorry. Low tolerance for nonsense.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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So basically 25 years ago the Philly skyline was pitiful since it was no liberty one or two, no comcast building
Philly has always had a great skyline, although it's probably true it didn't really become a modern one until Liberty I and II were built, but it always had the density and urbanity. The Gentlemens Agreement that no building could be built taller than City Hall meant that tons of historic midrises were built, which most modern skyscraper cities today like Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc lack.

This is Philadelphia in 1935:




1935 Philadelphia, just for fun. Skyscraper density nearly matched New York’s. Fairchild.


New York in Black and WhiteNew York in Black and White
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:37 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Philly has always had a great skyline, although it's probably true it didn't really become a modern one until Liberty I and II were built, but it always had the density and urbanity. The Gentlemens Agreement that no building could be built taller than City Hall meant that tons of historic midrises were built, which most modern skyscraper cities today like Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc lack.

This is Philadelphia in 1935:




1935 Philadelphia, just for fun. Skyscraper density nearly matched New York’s. Fairchild.


New York in Black and WhiteNew York in Black and White


Not much of a skyline since City Hall was the tallest building
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philly has always had a great skyline, although it's probably true it didn't really become a modern one until Liberty I and II were built, but it always had the density and urbanity. The Gentlemens Agreement that no building could be built taller than City Hall meant that tons of historic midrises were built, which most modern skyscraper cities today like Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc lack.

This is Philadelphia in 1935:




1935 Philadelphia, just for fun. Skyscraper density nearly matched New York’s. Fairchild.


New York in Black and WhiteNew York in Black and White
It's absolutely amazing that pretty much all of these buildings are still standing.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Sorry. Low tolerance for nonsense.
WHAT nonsense? Did YOU read any of my post earlier in the thread? As a matter of fact who cares? I'm not an architech but still four feet or 140 feet is a question I asked...Rather rhetorical at that.

Low tolerance for nonsene......Get a girlfriend dude.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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WHAT nonsense? Did YOU read any of my post earlier in the thread? As a matter of fact who cares? I'm not an architech but still four feet or 140 feet is a question I asked...Rather rhetorical at that.

Low tolerance for nonsene......Get a girlfriend dude.

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Old 02-24-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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I'm not much of a fan of that tower!!!!! The design basically sucks big time!!!! It looks like a bunch of vertically stacked milk crates covered in glass!!!!! I would rather see the old American Commerce Center on 18th and Arch than that monstrosity!!!!! The American Commerce Center was a much better proposal than the CITC!!!!! That has to be said!!!!!
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