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Old 08-21-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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CaN YoU sToP TypInG In CaPS. IT dOESn't HElp YOur POinT anD iS veRY disTRaCTiNg.
He doesn't know how to utilize bolding.
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:44 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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CaN YoU sToP TypInG In CaPS. IT dOESn't HElp YOur POinT anD iS veRY disTRaCTiNg.
Respectfully ..... NO. I DO NOT see I need to NOT USE CAPS. Some would suggest the "ignore" choice. When people run out of any comebacks. They go to drivel comments. People are afraid to use something different. Even color. Somebody might claim it's distracting........

Sorry I choose NOT TO OBLIGE. Oh and been told about my ......... in a Philly thread too and CAN I USE BOLDING..... Now do you really want me to use ...... This bolding in my post? But I'm flattered you make a good suggestion. . But believe me.... I get a bit HOT in a thread... the BOLD comes out. .

By the way... cp. I like your NeW BaCK aNd FoRtH StYLe of CAPS and no CAPS. It's a keeper...

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Old 08-22-2015, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Although there is no official East Philadelphia, I always considered Philadelphia's Alphabet City, Kensington and Fishtown neighborhoods to be it.
Fishtown and East Kensington are both part of the area of the city everyone calls the River Wards. Port Richmond and Aramingo are the other major neighborhoods in this part of the city. Even though they are north of Market and east of Front, they are not part of Northeast Philadelphia - that begins at Frankford Creek, according to some; others might draw the line a bit south of there so as to take in the former Northeast Catholic High School for Boys on Torresdale Avenue just east of Kensington Avenue.

The area where the north-south streets bear letters above Kensington Avenue is part of North or Northeast Philadelphia, depending on the neighborhood: Kensington west of the avenue is considered North Philly (don't ask me why) while Juniata Park is considered part of the Northeast.
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Respectfully ..... NO. I DO NOT see I need to NOT USE CAPS. Some would suggest the "ignore" choice. When people run out of any comebacks. They go to drivel comments. People are afraid to use something different. Even color. Somebody might claim it's distracting........

Sorry I choose NOT TO OBLIGE. Oh and been told about my ......... in a Philly thread too and CAN I USE BOLDING..... Now do you really want me to use ...... This bolding in my post? But I'm flattered you make a good suggestion. . But believe me.... I get a bit HOT in a thread... the BOLD comes out. .

By the way... cp. I like your NeW BaCK aNd FoRtH StYLe of CAPS and no CAPS. It's a keeper...
Respectfully, there is such a thing as Internet etiquette, or grammar, if you will.

This dates back to well before the World Wide Web and graphical browsers, when many early Netizens, including Yours Truly and kyb01, conversed in discussion forums called "newsgroups" on something called "Usenet," many of whose users participated on non-GUI computers (Unix machines before the development of Unix graphical user interfaces, or PCs running MS-DOS, for instance).

While the use of sideways punctuation to indicate emotions, called "smileys" in the very early days and now universally known as "emoticons," has largely been replaced by actual icons, the sideways punctuation mark characters can still be found.

As can this rule:

ALL CAPS TYPING IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING.

In the era of text-based conversation, *asterisks* around words indicated the kind of emphasis we use boldface for now.

The rule about only using caps if you're shouting, however, remains in force.

Now, as for your assertion that Philadelphians hate that Camden is part of the area:

You really need to actually visit here and speak to actual Philadelphians. I rarely if ever hear Camden discussed in language that I would consider indicative of hate. Fear? Yes. Disappointment? Yes. But what with the recent efforts to develop all sorts of visitor lures on the city's waterfront, you actually find some Philadelphians going to Camden to do something like visit the Adventure Aquarium, see a Riversharks game or attend a concert at the Susquehanna Bank Center.

The city government remains a basket case and the city as a whole is still desperately poor. But it's no longer spoken of as a place to avoid completely - at least not to the degree it was even a few years ago.

And yes, Trenton has far more influence on Camden's fate than Philadelphia ever has or ever will have.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:55 AM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Respectfully, there is such a thing as Internet etiquette, or grammar, if you will.

This dates back to well before the World Wide Web and graphical browsers, when many early Netizens, including Yours Truly and kyb01, conversed in discussion forums called "newsgroups" on something called "Usenet," many of whose users participated on non-GUI computers (Unix machines before the development of Unix graphical user interfaces, or PCs running MS-DOS, for instance).

While the use of sideways punctuation to indicate emotions, called "smileys" in the very early days and now universally known as "emoticons," has largely been replaced by actual icons, the sideways punctuation mark characters can still be found.

As can this rule:
ALL CAPS TYPING IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING.

In the era of text-based conversation, *asterisks* around words indicated the kind of emphasis we use boldface for now.
The rule about only using caps if you're shouting, however, remains in force.
Now, as for your assertion that Philadelphians hate that Camden is part of the area:

You really need to actually visit here and speak to actual Philadelphians. I rarely if ever hear Camden discussed in language that I would consider indicative of hate. Fear? Yes. Disappointment? Yes. But what with the recent efforts to develop all sorts of visitor lures on the city's waterfront, you actually find some Philadelphians going to Camden to do something like visit the Adventure Aquarium, see a Riversharks game or attend a concert at the Susquehanna Bank Center.

The city government remains a basket case and the city as a whole is still desperately poor. But it's no longer spoken of as a place to avoid completely - at least not to the degree it was even a few years ago.

And yes, Trenton has far more influence on Camden's fate than Philadelphia ever has or ever will have.
Thanks for the commentary . It adds to perspective of the thread and highlights Philadelphians full acceptance of visitors to the thread. If of course, If i am now more seen as a regular and a local eastern Pennsylvanian now? As I am born and raised east of the Susquehanna River, and live here. Though apparently my local public schools I attended. Failed to give me excellence in grammar and sentence structuring?

But sadly, I did not have a Philly public school education. I would have had all the proper skills to have any thoughts placed in word here? Many Philadelphians have moved to small towns by me and former hometown. Seeking good gang free schools for their Children and VERY CHEAP ROW HOUSING. They certainly brought with them. Only the best etiquette and English linguistic skills. Sadly, they do not come for employment.
My brother has certainly heard from some to NOT DISRESPECT THEM.

The first time I came into a Philly thread. I did have a fair amount respect too.....
One of my early visits to the Philly forums. I made comments on seeing the Riverfront of Philly more developed with High-rises to amusement pier. It was NOT KINDLY RECIEVED. I GOT..... HOW DARE I AS A OUTSIDER? BELIEVE PHILLY NEEDS ADVICE OR SUGGESTIONS? FROM A OUTSIDER. We can do our own.

But the BEST RECEPTION. Was to note I could see HIGH-RISES ALONG THE JERSEY-SIDE SHORE BETWEEN THE AQUARIUM AND BEN FRANKLIN? It is mostly just parking lots now. I assure you. I RECIEVED input on A POSITIVE VIEW OF THIS SIDE OF THE RIVER. ESPECIALLY ANYTHING IN COMMENT WITH CAMDEN in it.... Well not really .... I was CORRECTED WITH. IT IS ANOTHER STATE.

I then replied,... That the Jersey side is still Philly's Metropolitan area and the AQUARIUM WAS STILL A PHILLY ATTRACTION. It still was not seen well... IT'S ANOTHER STATE AND CAMDEN, NJ. Oh and you reassured me..... in Trenton's caring arms and influence also......
I then posted a web-sight with. The Aquarium on a Philly tourist DISCOUNT CARD. FOR A DISCOUNTED ENTRANCE TO PHILLY ATTRACTIONS. The AQUARIUM was among them.

I think they liked me a little better....
Well thus ends my Dissertation and rant on the my Philly thread experiences.....

ps.... I started my reply....with no caps. But my finite controls... failed me... Thank God for Spell check. . Now I need a GRAMMAR CHECK app. BUT WITH ALL MY REPLIES. I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC?????
OH WELL, I AM SURE THE REST OF YOU WILL. .... CARRY ON.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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East Philly doesn't exist. East Philly would be New Jersey. There is a Northeast Philly however... and I guess you can consider the Riverwards "East" Philly.
Personally I've always referred to the Riverwards and Sugar House Casino area (still part of the Riverwards, right?) as East Philly and I'm a lifelong Philly area resident. I believe that every city has a north, south, easy, and west. You just have to designate which neighborhoods they correspond to. Also, I feel weird lumping Bridesburg, Port Richmond, Fishtown, and the east portion of Kensington in with North Philly or Northeast Philly, since the culture and feel of these neighborhoods is different than that of North Philly and Northeast.
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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I know it will never happen but I think changing the city of Camden's name to East Philly would help lower the negative stigma to the city.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I know it will never happen but I think changing the city of Camden's name to East Philly would help lower the negative stigma to the city.
You've obviously never been to East St. Louis, Ill., the city I've referred to in the past as "the nation's largest incorporated slum."
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:13 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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You've obviously never been to East St. Louis, Ill., the city I've referred to in the past as "the nation's largest incorporated slum."
West New York in New Jersey which is right across the river doesn't seem to hurt New York City's reputation. St Louis is a Midwestern rust-belt city that continues to have population decline. The city lost its NFL team a couple years ago which was certainly embarrassing. Philly continues to improve and get better every year. The city's overall reputation and prestige will also continue to improve. Camden would benefit from having Philadelphia in its name.

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Old 12-30-2017, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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West New York in New Jersey which is right across the river doesn't seem to hurt New York City's reputation. St Louis is a Midwestern rust-belt city that continues to have population decline. The city lost its NFL team a couple years ago which was certainly embarrassing. Philly continues to improve and get better every year. The city's overall reputation and prestige will also continue to improve. Camden would benefit from having Philadelphia in its name.
Good point about the main city's status relative to the satellite's.

I happen to have been born and raised in the one metropolitan area in this country where the core city and the satellite have the same name - and outsiders, especially on this coast, often confuse the two.

As a result, however, I do have more than a little familiarity with St. Louis, for most of its existence its state's largest city but now its second-largest thanks to that hollowing-out. It remains, however, its largest metropolis, though that other one is growing at a faster clip (and probably would be growing faster had the governor of the state next door not engaged in a faith-based economic development strategy that has both wrecked the finances and educational system of the state he runs and done real damage to the metropolitan economy of its largest metropolis, which is the same one I was born and raised in).

Someone some years back wrote an essay in The Philadelphia Inquirer's long-defunct Sunday magazine arguing that Philadelphia would be better off if we annexed its region to New Jersey, thus giving that state a metropolis it could finally call its own. OTOH, I think that maybe New Jersey would be better off if it were split in two and the two halves attached to the bordering states whose metropolises define so much of it.

Which brings us back, in a way, to "East Philadelphia, N.J."
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