Is Philadelphia a Role Model for U.S. Cities? (Reading: city hall, hotels)

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by steeps

It's irreverent How. WANNAMAKER'S WAS LOST? IT IS STILL OPEN AS A MACY'S or the other one. CHICAGO also lost its Big retailers on State Street OVER DECADES.

Chicago already had a NEW evolving High-End shopping Street evolve on North Michigan Ave in the 70s. State Street was the original one. It Lost it's SEAR'S Flagship store first in the early 80s maybe late 70s? WEEBOLT'S . A local Big retailer then went under. MONTGOMERY WARD'S lasted till it went under in 2000. MARSHALL FIELD'S CHICAGO'S main Retailer lasted till it went under In the late 90s I believe? But MACY'S TOOK IT OVERAND KEPT IT ORIGINAL AND RESTORED IT. CARSON PIERRE SCOTT Retailer I believe was Last to go. It is a downtown TARGET Store now retaining its exterior iron grid-work on the National Landmark list.

The City closed the street to traffic in the 80s and tried a Mall concept with only Buses. It continued to lose stores during that time and was considered a flop. It was Reopened to traffic in the 90s and began to bounce Back. Even SEAR'S BUILT a brand new store and New Typical Suburban Mall Stores now fill the Street, along with the Iconic former MARSHALL FIELD'S AS A MACY'S KEEPING ITS OLD GRANDURE INTACT and the TARGET Surprisingly. The ICONIC CHICAGO THEATER is also on the street and A Brand new Public Library built in the 90's as the biggest in the Nation. Maybe world?

So CHICAGO HAS 2 VIBRANT SHOPPING STREETS DOWNTOWN. ORIGINAL STATE STREET as our common stores and MALL and MACY'S and NORTH MICHIGAN AVE THE HIGH-END RETAILERS . Bloomingdales, Neiman Markus, Saks's, Tiffany's, Macy's again and others AND BOUTIQUE STORES AROUND IT and couple Vertical Malls on it

You have Malls and Market Place's to shop Downtown Philly to University City? Not a Classic Downtown shopping street. But PHILLY IS STILL NOT SHORT ON STORES TODAY.

PHILLY SHOPPING ALSO OVER ALL IS RATED TOPS. JUST AGAIN MALLS

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/01/15/magazine-ranks-philly-the-second-best-shopping-city-in-the-world/

CHICAGO LISTED # 2 AFTER NYC # 1 Shopping destination. http://travel.usnews.com/Rankings/Best_Shopping_in_the_USA/

But it's NORTH MICHIGN AVE CHICAGO AS A STREET.....IS WHAT IS COMPARED TO RODEO DRIVE LA. AND 5th AVE NYC.


Using CAPS is my style I chose. You don't like WHAT I POSTED. Again The thread says Philly a Role Model to the Nation? (question mark)Sure there are things. But seems ALL YOU WANT IS BACK PATTING PHILLY IS NOW BEST. Just not some things but ALL?
My problem? Just because I don't like old plain Rows on narrow streets. It's merely a matter of preferences by me and when comparing cities? I'd choose a loft or Apt. Building over Rows. Probably over even fancy new ones.

As for Downtowns in the nation's NEW TOWNHOUSES? They many times are glorified and encompass interior courtyards and Parks as these in Chicago for example.....

NO HATE PLEASE ...... BECAUSE I ADD OPINIONS TO THE THREAD.

Typing in caps is yelling. Not just my opinion.

You're welcome to your opinions, but you are yelling at people who post opinions that don't coincide with yours. That's pretty irritating. You are also making posts that aren't exactly up to snuff for truth like saying that Philly was late with gentrification. That's wrong. That's outright false.

[steeps]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

Typing in caps is yelling. Not just my opinion.

You're welcome to your opinions, but you are yelling at people who post opinions that don't coincide with yours. That's pretty irritating. You are also making posts that aren't exactly up to snuff for truth like saying that Philly was late with gentrification. That's wrong. That's outright false.

I did not mean neighborhoods residential. I meant for downtown Philly that is neither University or a classic residential district. But Downtown Philly is what I meant. Of course I acknowledge it has NOW taken off especially the last 10-15 years. New office towers, retail moving back in. and new residences added downtown. Other cities had a decade and more head start.... what I meant. I do know the gayborhood downtown Philly? Was a early example of gentrification started also.

Not meant as a dissing? Because it surely has come. Sure Philly residents should be proud I just saw "Role model" from this new C-D maker of this Thread. He goes in threads totally on other cities and says Philly is better AND BEST at ALL THINGS. Then the thread has others " up in arms". I mean heated.... of course ....and he gets called a troll and had previous ID's .... they say what names ect.

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by steeps

It's irreverent How. WANNAMAKER'S WAS LOST? IT IS STILL OPEN AS A MACY'S or the other one. CHICAGO also lost its Big retailers on State Street OVER DECADES.

Chicago already had a NEW evolving High-End shopping Street evolve on North Michigan Ave in the 70s. State Street was the original one. It Lost it's SEAR'S Flagship store first in the early 80s maybe late 70s? WEEBOLT'S . A local Big retailer then went under. MONTGOMERY WARD'S lasted till it went under in 2000. MARSHALL FIELD'S CHICAGO'S main Retailer lasted till it went under In the late 90s I believe? But MACY'S TOOK IT OVERAND KEPT IT ORIGINAL AND RESTORED IT. CARSON PIERRE SCOTT Retailer I believe was Last to go. It is a downtown TARGET Store now retaining its exterior iron grid-work on the National Landmark list.

The City closed the street to traffic in the 80s and tried a Mall concept with only Buses. It continued to lose stores during that time and was considered a flop. It was Reopened to traffic in the 90s and began to bounce Back. Even SEAR'S BUILT a brand new store and New Typical Suburban Mall Stores now fill the Street, along with the Iconic former MARSHALL FIELD'S AS A MACY'S KEEPING ITS OLD GRANDURE INTACT and the TARGET Surprisingly. The ICONIC CHICAGO THEATER is also on the street and A Brand new Public Library built in the 90's as the biggest in the Nation. Maybe world?

So CHICAGO HAS 2 VIBRANT SHOPPING STREETS DOWNTOWN. ORIGINAL STATE STREET as our common stores and MALL and MACY'S and NORTH MICHIGAN AVE THE HIGH-END RETAILERS . Bloomingdales, Neiman Markus, Saks's, Tiffany's, Macy's again and others AND BOUTIQUE STORES AROUND IT and couple Vertical Malls on it

You have Malls and Market Place's to shop Downtown Philly to University City? Not a Classic Downtown shopping street. But PHILLY IS STILL NOT SHORT ON STORES TODAY.

PHILLY SHOPPING ALSO OVER ALL IS RATED TOPS. JUST AGAIN MALLS

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/01/15/magazine-ranks-philly-the-second-best-shopping-city-in-the-world/

CHICAGO LISTED # 2 AFTER NYC # 1 Shopping destination. http://travel.usnews.com/Rankings/Best_Shopping_in_the_USA/

But it's NORTH MICHIGN AVE CHICAGO AS A STREET.....IS WHAT IS COMPARED TO RODEO DRIVE LA. AND 5th AVE NYC.


Using CAPS is my style I chose. You don't like WHAT I POSTED. Again The thread says Philly a Role Model to the Nation? (question mark)Sure there are things. But seems ALL YOU WANT IS BACK PATTING PHILLY IS NOW BEST. Just not some things but ALL?
My problem? Just because I don't like old plain Rows on narrow streets. It's merely a matter of preferences by me and when comparing cities? I'd choose a loft or Apt. Building over Rows. Probably over even fancy new ones.

As for Downtowns in the nation's NEW TOWNHOUSES? They many times are glorified and encompass interior courtyards and Parks as these in Chicago for example.....

NO HATE PLEASE ...... BECAUSE I ADD OPINIONS TO THE THREAD.

Why is Philly being compared to Chicago?

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by steeps

I did not mean neighborhoods residential. I meant for downtown Philly that is neither University or a classic residential district. But Downtown Philly is what I meant. Of course I acknowledge it has NOW taken off especially the last 10-15 years. New office towers, retail moving back in. and new residences added downtown. Other cities had a decade and more head start.... what I meant. I do know the gayborhood downtown Philly? Was a early example of gentrification started also.

Not meant as a dissing? Because it surely has come. Sure Philly residents should be proud I just saw "Role model" from this new C-D maker of this Thread. He goes in threads totally on other cities and says Philly is better AND BEST at ALL THINGS. Then the thread has others " up in arms". I mean heated.... of course ....and he gets called a troll and had previous ID's .... they say what names ect.

Are you aware that the Gallery was the 1st inner-city mall in the country? Were you aware that Chestnut St was once a pedestrian mall? Are you aware that anyone who has lived in Philly or the suburbs for 6 months knows the contempt that most people who live between Philadelphia & Pittsburgh have for Philadelphia?

You didn't say retail you said that Philadelphia was late to gentrification when, in fact, it was first. The Gallery brought more retail to Market St & had the 1st food court.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by FBJ

Why is Philly being compared to Chicago?

It's been an active thread on the city-data/forum/city-vs-city lately.

[TimmyTightWad]

Don't think you can be a model city with a corrupt local government, horrible schools, and such high levels of poverty.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by TimmyTightWad

Don't think you can be a model city with a corrupt local government, horrible schools, and such high levels of poverty.

Negadelphian in the house.

[the_curious_urbanist]

How many other cities have made a turnaround as dramatic as Philly in the 2010's?

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by the_curious_urbanist

How many other cities have made a turnaround as dramatic as Philly in the 2010's?

DC most notably-not exclusively in a good way either, which is why it's so frustrating when posters such as yourself keep yelling about how much things have changed.

Some of us like Philly how it is, and don't want it to change so dramatically.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

DC most notably-not exclusively in a good way either, which is why it's so frustrating when posters such as yourself keep yelling about how much things have changed.

Some of us like Philly how it is, and don't want it to change so dramatically.

Hmmm, really? You want/wanted to preserve blight, decay, losing population?

Well, I don't think you mean that. But, come on, there was very little investment in even close-to-CC neighborhoods for decades. Now there is. Stop dreaming for the Rizzo era. Or what was.