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Old 05-10-2015, 08:15 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I can't see Philadelphia being a big draw to Europeans. As far as the historical significance is concerned, if it's not a big enough draw for Americans as it is, why would it be one for Canadians or Europeans?
On the other hand I can see Philly as a draw for certain niche tourism from abroad. My dear friend and his fiancee from Sheffield, England carved out a few days for Philly (I'm sure he wanted to see me too, but I don't flatter myself) mostly because he's an architect and he want to see the buildings here by Furness, Hewitt Brothers, Samuel Sloan, Horace Trumbauer, Frank Lloyd Wright (in Elkins Park) ... but mostly of his hero Alfred I. Kahn.

The Philly Flower Show is now the largest flower show in the world, so don't underestimate the tourist bucks it brings in.

We need to build, maintain and promote film festivals, food festivals, musical concerts of every genre. Philly is a cultural city but it can still be improved. We have live theater, and I would love to see Philly advertising itself as the "just as good as but more affordable alternative" to Broadway.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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Do you think Philly couldn't? Of shouldn't have such a Tourist attraction on its Waterfront? If so give SPACIFICS? Why not?

The THREAD ask for SUGGESTIONS Philly could do to get more TOURIST? I merely KNOW How SUCESSFUL, Navy Pier in. Chicago BECAME INSTANTLY. AND TOURIST FLOCK TO IT and it is REVENUE BONANZA..... It is like 15-20 years old and already being changed and remodeled, to keep variety and people continuing to go to it. It IS THE BIGGEST TOURIST VISITED SIGHT IN THE UPPER MIDWEST.

I MADE A SUGGESTION ON THE THREAD TOPIC? ABOUT.....BRINGING IN MORE TOURIST????

Sure it takes planning? City and local Developers? But you have a Pier type structure there, could be more....a good spot for access? Columbus Blvd. A ASSET THAT Again? I see could be PHILLY'S premier Riverfront Drive. For High-End housing and Riverfront attractions? Land available along the Blvd. And across from that location on Google streetview...I said I COULD SEE A PIER LIKE ATTRACTION, AMUSEMENT COMPLEX? UTILIZING THE RIVER IN SUMMER FOR BOAT RIDES FOR TOURIST, DINER CRUISES ON THE DELAWARE FROM THERE....ECT. You already have some Harbors there. Also, it's Right in the shadow of THE BEN FRANKLIN BRIDGE. LIGHT IT UP WITH COLOR AND SHOW IT OFF.

Maybe we should just keep talking a about or hoping some Retailer comes to a Mall in Center City? FOR ATTRACTING LOTS OF TOURIST??? You have plenty of Big Malls outside of Philly, and to Lancaster? Tourist DO NOT Need to go to Center City to a Mall? The Market Place is much more marketable to tourist, to me though.... as different.

Again what COMMENT OR SUGGESTION I MADE IN THE POST? WARRENTS? In your use of the word???? BANNED?
Oh, I forgot to mentioned that the Ben Franklin Bridge is lit up. That's been true for years.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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On the other hand I can see Philly as a draw for certain niche tourism from abroad. My dear friend and his fiancee from Sheffield, England carved out a few days for Philly (I'm sure he wanted to see me too, but I don't flatter myself) mostly because he's an architect and he want to see the buildings here by Furness, Hewitt Brothers, Samuel Sloan, Horace Trumbauer, Frank Lloyd Wright (in Elkins Park) ... but mostly of his hero Alfred I. Kahn.

The Philly Flower Show is now the largest flower show in the world, so don't underestimate the tourist bucks it brings in.

We need to build, maintain and promote film festivals, food festivals, musical concerts of every genre. Philly is a cultural city but it can still be improved. We have live theater, and I would love to see Philly advertising itself as the "just as good as but more affordable alternative" to Broadway.
Do you know about Philly's history of being a Broadway "try out" town? Maybe you're too young to know about that. The Merriam Theater was the Schubert and it was part of NY Schubert organization. Plus where the Estia Greek restaurant is on Locust across from the Academy of Music was another theater. I'm blanking on its name. The Forrest was used all the time back in the day.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Learn some geography. Camden is in NEW JERSEY. Another state. What developer impact Phila has on it has been minimal so far.

You behave as if we don't have any talent in Phila. There are plenty of ideas of what we should do with the water front and unused land. In fact some of the things you posted have ALREADY been proposed.

Lol, you say above that your suggestions are unwanted. So gee, how much longer will you keep posting them here?
Well right across the River in a me to are called "Greater Philadelphia, Camden, Wilmington Metro Area". I mean really Camden is right across the River. GUESS PHILLY REGIONAL TOURIST
BOOKLETS? SHOULD NOT LIST THE ADVENTURE AQUARIUM AS A ATTRACTION NEAR PHILLY???? BECAUSE IT IS IN NJ. GOD FORBID.....

Philadelphia, Camden, Wilmington Metro Area - USA.com™

I remember the BOASTING IN A PHILLY VS. CHICAGO THREAD?? HOW PHILLYS METRO EXTENDS TO ATLANTIC CITY, AND DEPENDING WHETHER CSA STATISTICAL REGION OR MSA? TO CAPE MAY TOO. You want to EXCLUDE CAMDEN REDEVLOPMENT FOR PHILLY WORKERS TO LIVE IN HIGH-RISE DEVELOPMENTS THERE? Not IF? But WHEN it might happen. They boasted.... Philly is just a hour to the Jersey Shore and Ocean beaches. To TRUMP Chicago's Lakeshore Beaches even Downtown.

The thread IS about AREA TOURISM and IMPROVING and INCREASING IT? The Aquarium still is to PHILLY'S ADVANTAGE too nearby, and most living on a redeveloped Camden shore? Would be Philly Center City Workers? I read that was a hope.... to Rid the stigma that Camden brought. But the Aquarium was a start to redevelop? It seems to have gone no further?

The following attractions are available with the Philadelphia CityPASS: DOESN'T even say NEW JERSEY ADVENTURE AQUARIUM.... Philadelphia CityPASS — Visit Philadelphia — visitphilly.com
  • The Franklin Institute
  • Adventure Aquarium
  • Philadelphia Trolley Works & The Big Bus Company
  • Philadelphia Zoo OR National Constitution Center
  • Eastern State Penitentiary OR Please Touch Museum
AS FOR AREA TALENT? Do not interject what I NEVER INFERED HERE. Every city can find things some other cities did in redevelopment.... and look at itself and where it could do similar. THERE WAS A THREAD PHILLY WAS THE ROLL MODEL FOR THE NATION? BUT NO ONE REALLY ESPRESSED ON WHAT SPACIFICALLY WAS EXAMPLES? I am sure there are some.
Learn some geography? Better Grammar yes I'm sure... Do you really think I believed Camden WAS IN PA and NOT NJ?...... is not still Camden part of Philly Metropolitan region? Right across the River?
Really I merely gave my suggestion on the Topic.... Tourism The OP's first post for the thread topic.
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What do you think Philly could do to improve tourism to the city? To my understanding tourism is still grossly low compared to similar US cities in importance, size, GDP, culture etc.
AS TO THIS THIS POST 2 post BEFORE ...⤵
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Oh, I forgot to mentioned that the Ben Franklin Bridge is lit up. That's been true for years.
NOTE MY POST SAYS WITH SOME COLOR.... Anyone from my area on Bus trips to Atlantic city. Especially the shortened days of winter to the Casinos. Knows on the way home the Ben Franklin is lit up. BUT SOME COLOR WOULDN'T HURT... Red, white and blue on national holidays? Green St Patty's, etc. Even seasonal color. REALLY IT BEGS FOR ATTENTION.... Why it's the Golden Gate of the East...
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Because, we, as honest to God Philadelphians, want to resolve our own issues.

And, as I said before, some of what you suggested has already been discussed in the Phila. We already get a lot of tourists. The thread was addressed to people WHO LIVE HERE about how to generate more tourism. We know the area intimately. You don't. Therefore it makes more sense for US to discuss it. Not you!

You continue to inject "Chicago solutions" to a place that has different history, topography, and weather. What for?

Btw, there are summer dinner cruises on the Delaware River. And there are tourist boat excursions. It's call Ride the Ducks. We are rehabbing our old piers one-by-one.
THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OUT THERE FOR IDEAS....

YES part of TOURISM BUT A COMMON TOURIST ATTRACTION AREA WHERE EACH KIND ARE READILY ACCESABLE TOO. I merely said ALL could have a common origin on a Pier complex too. Even High mask Pirate shIp rides, Speed boats? Though probably one wouldn't want to get wet by River water.

They are NOT SOLUTIONS. They were SUGGESTIONS ON THE THREAD TOPIC. ⤵
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What do you think Philly could do to improve tourism to the city? To my understanding tourism is still grossly low compared to similar US cities in importance, size, GDP, culture etc.

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Old 05-10-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Well right across the River in a me to are called "Greater Philadelphia, Camden, Wilmington Metro Area". I mean really Camden is right across the River. GUESS PHILLY REGIONAL TOURIST
BOOKLETS? SHOULD NOT LIST THE ADVENTURE AQUARIUM AS A ATTRACTION NEAR PHILLY???? BECAUSE IT IS IN NJ. GOD FORBID.....

Philadelphia, Camden, Wilmington Metro Area - USA.com™

I remember the BOASTING IN A PHILLY VS. CHICAGO THREAD?? HOW PHILLYS METRO EXTENDS TO ATLANTIC CITY, AND DEPENDING WHETHER CSA STATISTICAL REGION OR MSA? TO CAPE MAY TOO. You want to EXCLUDE CAMDEN REDEVLOPMENT FOR PHILLY WORKERS TO LIVE IN HIGH-RISE DEVELOPMENTS THERE? Not IF? But WHEN it might happen. They boasted.... Philly is just a hour to the Jersey Shore and Ocean beaches. To TRUMP Chicago's Lakeshore Beaches even Downtown.

The thread IS about AREA TOURISM and IMPROVING and INCREASING IT? The Aquarium still is to PHILLY'S ADVANTAGE too nearby, and most living on a redeveloped Camden shore? Would be Philly Center City Workers? I read that was a hope.... to Rid the stigma that Camden brought. But the Aquarium was a start to redevelop? It seems to have gone no further?

The following attractions are available with the Philadelphia CityPASS: DOESN'T even say NEW JERSEY ADVENTURE AQUARIUM.... Philadelphia CityPASS — Visit Philadelphia — visitphilly.com
  • The Franklin Institute
  • Adventure Aquarium
  • Philadelphia Trolley Works & The Big Bus Company
  • Philadelphia Zoo OR National Constitution Center
  • Eastern State Penitentiary OR Please Touch Museum
AS FOR AREA TALENT? Do not interject what I NEVER INFERED HERE. Every city can find things some other cities did in redevelopment.... and look at itself and where it could do similar. THERE WAS A THREAD PHILLY WAS THE ROLL MODEL FOR THE NATION? BUT NO ONE REALLY ESPRESSED ON WHAT SPACIFICALLY WAS EXAMPLES? I am sure there are some.
Learn some geography? Better Grammar yes I'm sure... Do you really think I believed Camden WAS IN PA and NOT NJ?...... is not still Camden part of Philly Metropolitan region? Right across the River?
Really I merely gave my suggestion on the Topic.... Tourism The OP's first post for the thread topic.


AS TO THIS THIS POST 2 post BEFORE ...⤵
NOTE MY POST SAYS WITH SOME COLOR.... Anyone from my area on Bus trips to Atlantic city. Especially the shortened days of winter to the Casinos. Knows on the way home the Ben Franklin is lit up. BUT SOME COLOR WOULDN'T HURT... Red, white and blue on national holidays? Green St Patty's, etc. Even seasonal color. REALLY IT BEGS FOR ATTENTION.... Why it's the Golden Gate of the East...
Would you please quit yelling.

People from Philadelphia can access the aquarium via a ferry. They don't need to deal with Camden. The aquarium could be on the moon for all anyone cares. Having lived in Camden County for over 40 years I can tell you that people on both sides of the river want nothing to do with it.

There is an apartment building on the waterfront in Camden. If you think that living there is a bang-up good idea, rent an apartment there & give it a shot.
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Old 05-10-2015, 09:49 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Would you please quit yelling.

People from Philadelphia can access the aquarium via a ferry. They don't need to deal with Camden. The aquarium could be on the moon for all anyone cares. Having lived in Camden County for over 40 years I can tell you that people on both sides of the river want nothing to do with it.

There is an apartment building on the waterfront in Camden. If you think that living there is a bang-up good idea, rent an apartment there & give it a shot.
I'd say spare us personal issues with Camden. Again read Travel tourist feedback sights. The post comments like .... can see the Philly Skyline, Great Aquarium...... It is a Oasis and, Park on the Camden shore. But there is just Parking lots to the north toward the Ben Franklin.

Gentrification spreads from Downtowns outward mostly. A lot of parts of Brooklyn were not too nice too not too long ago. Harlem? But many parts have changed. Besides.... the Shore north of the Aquarium is not central Camden. High-rise living begs for VIEWS... like of a Skyline, waterway, and majestic Bridge..... apparently for you? Camden may as well be on Mars. Surely parts of even Center City, were not so attractive? Till some new developments or restoring existing housing in gentrification.... came.

As for Ferry or over the Bridge? Camden exist. But does not mean.... just as the Aquarium sight redid a part? So too could be a start of other parts of the Jersey side of the Delaware... from Philly. One New High-Rise luxury living with Views? Could start more. Or if not it won't go further.
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Old 05-10-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Center City has done a much better job in the past 10-20 years in marketing their tourist industry and it shows. The Center City District does a great job keeping Center City clean and well kept.The renewal of Market East is going to be a huge benefit . However I would argue that the city as a whole could do much more in cleaning and maintaining the roadways that get you to Center City. They are in pretty hellish condition and do not give off the right vibe for anyone. Broad Street is poorly kept. 26th street merging with Schuylkill are eyesorish disaster zones..
No arguments there. Unfortunately, some of the most traversed roads around Philly definitely don't portray a prosperous and welcoming major metro area--and longer term that absolutely has to be addressed (even if it takes some arm twisting at the state level).

But I think there are far more people today "in the know" about Philly than ever before, particularly among true urban enthusiasts, that they're not scared away by roadside litter and defunct industrial sites (in fact, the later can be even be intriguing to some people if it's not threatening/super sketchy).
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Old 05-10-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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No arguments there. Unfortunately, some of the most traversed roads around Philly definitely don't portray a prosperous and welcoming major metro area--and longer term that absolutely has to be addressed (even if it takes some arm twisting at the state level).

But I think there are far more people today "in the know" about Philly than ever before, particularly among true urban enthusiasts, that they're not scared away by roadside litter and defunct industrial sites (in fact, the later can be even be intriguing to some people if it's not threatening/super sketchy).
The person who might have done that arm twisting on the state level was imprisoned wrt corruption charges. His name is Vince Fumo.

Tom Wolf will have his hands full getting any of his budgets through the legislature just like Rendell did. So we won't get any more attention than we did through the Corbett admin.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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I'd say spare us personal issues with Camden. Again read Travel tourist feedback sights. The post comments like .... can see the Philly Skyline, Great Aquarium...... It is a Oasis and, Park on the Camden shore. But there is just Parking lots to the north toward the Ben Franklin.

Gentrification spreads from Downtowns outward mostly. A lot of parts of Brooklyn were not too nice too not too long ago. Harlem? But many parts have changed. Besides.... the Shore north of the Aquarium is not central Camden. High-rise living begs for VIEWS... like of a Skyline, waterway, and majestic Bridge..... apparently for you? Camden may as well be on Mars. Surely parts of even Center City, were not so attractive? Till some new developments or restoring existing housing in gentrification.... came.

As for Ferry or over the Bridge? Camden exist. But does not mean.... just as the Aquarium sight redid a part? So too could be a start of other parts of the Jersey side of the Delaware... from Philly. One New High-Rise luxury living with Views? Could start more. Or if not it won't go further.
Try proofreading your posts. Coherent sentences would be nice. That post is so incoherent that responding is not possible. However I thing that you totally missed the fact that there is an apartment building on the riverfront near the bridge.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:34 AM
 
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Try proofreading your posts. Coherent sentences would be nice. That post is so incoherent that responding is not possible. However I thing that you totally missed the fact that there is an apartment building on the riverfront near the bridge.
Just put him on "ignore". You'll feel better.
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