Philadelphia Crime 2016 (health, subway, charge)

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

Homeless people don't just attack people. Most likely he was confronted by a homeless person and he escalated the situation. I hope the "attack" was captured on CCTV cameras




Pa. Justice Dougherty recovering after attack by homeless man

Let's see...someone is confronted by a homeless person and you assume Dougherty ''escalated'' the situation? Can you define ''escalate''? I think the situation is escalated when someone, let alone a Philly street person, confronts someone.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by Steinish

Yes. I'm sorry someone had to die, but I'm glad the facts came to the surface.

What are the facts that came to the surface?

[1ondoner]

In a span of a day, a homeless person will encounter hundreds of people and get into several confrontations due to their aggressiveness. I'm sure you had an encounter if you've lived in the city. Encounters that end up in a fight (or attack) are usually brought about by how you handle a homeless person. Most people walk away, others stand their ground, and this is where things can go downhill very fast.

Unless there is a motive of robbery, people don't just get assaulted by strangers. And when I say assaulted, I'm using the word loosely. Homeless people will always confront people, but for there to be a fight, it depends on how the victim responds. So expect to be confronted by homeless people but how you respond will determine the outcome of the encounter.

Originally Posted by Kamms

Sorry, but some homeless people do attack strangers for no reason; it's called mental illness and its real as is the fact that Philly is a sanctuary city again. More good news.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

In a span of a day, a homeless person will encounter hundreds of people and get into several confrontations due to their aggressiveness. I'm sure you had an encounter if you've lived in the city. Encounters that end up in a fight (or attack) are usually brought about by how you handle a homeless person. Most people walk away, others stand their ground, and this is where things can go downhill very fast.

Unless there is a motive of robbery, people don't just get assaulted by strangers. And when I say assaulted, I'm using the word loosely. Homeless people will always confront people, but for there to be a fight, it depends on how the victim responds. So expect to be confronted by homeless people but how you respond will determine the outcome of the encounter.

Often times this is true, but there are some encounters that are not provoked by the innocent victim. The guy at Suburban Station recently attacked for no reason is a good example. Lucky to be alive.

Some people walk away, others are attacked for no reason. I'm sorry but you must not live in any city if you think that people do not get assaulted by strangers for no reason. They do and to blame innocent people for going about their business and have to deal with this b.s. is misplaced.

You sound insistent that the ''victim'' has done something to be responsible for.

[Steinish]

Originally Posted by Kamms

What are the facts that came to the surface?

That there were words exchanged and it wasn't simply random.

[Steinish]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

In a span of a day, a homeless person will encounter hundreds of people and get into several confrontations due to their aggressiveness. I'm sure you had an encounter if you've lived in the city. Encounters that end up in a fight (or attack) are usually brought about by how you handle a homeless person. Most people walk away, others stand their ground, and this is where things can go downhill very fast.

Unless there is a motive of robbery, people don't just get assaulted by strangers. And when I say assaulted, I'm using the word loosely. Homeless people will always confront people, but for there to be a fight, it depends on how the victim responds. So expect to be confronted by homeless people but how you respond will determine the outcome of the encounter.

My neighbor's wife was attacked Downtown for no reason other than she was walking to the building where she works. This is a very mousy woman who doesn't like confrontation ... the dirtbag came up to her and punched her in the chest. He was arrested, she testified and he was convicted

[Steinish]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Often times this is true, but there are some encounters that are not provoked by the innocent victim. The guy at Suburban Station recently attacked for no reason is a good example. Lucky to be alive.

Some people walk away, others are attacked for no reason. I'm sorry but you must not live in any city if you think that people do not get assaulted by strangers for no reason. They do and to blame innocent people for going about their business and have to deal with this b.s. is misplaced.

You sound insistent that the ''victim'' has done something to be responsible for.

You are 100% correct!

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by Steinish

That there were words exchanged and it wasn't simply random.

Right, OK. I thought some other facts were added that I hadn't heard about yet.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

In a span of a day, a homeless person will encounter hundreds of people and get into several confrontations due to their aggressiveness. I'm sure you had an encounter if you've lived in the city. Encounters that end up in a fight (or attack) are usually brought about by how you handle a homeless person. Most people walk away, others stand their ground, and this is where things can go downhill very fast.

Unless there is a motive of robbery, people don't just get assaulted by strangers. And when I say assaulted, I'm using the word loosely. Homeless people will always confront people, but for there to be a fight, it depends on how the victim responds. So expect to be confronted by homeless people but how you respond will determine the outcome of the encounter.

Although a different scenario, the recent ''gay bashing'' incident is another example where people should have walked away. Walk away from any street encounter if you can whether it's a homeless person or young drunkards. The two gay guys stood their ground; got their as#ses kicked. Lucky to be alive. Same thing with the aggressors; could have injured or cost them their lives as well. All over being called a name.

For there to be a fight, it was how the two gay dudes responded that determined the outcome of the encounter.

Keep walking and get away. Of course in the context of the gay bashing thread I was pummeled for basically stating that same thing: it's the person being confronted that determines the outcome.

Again, though, to state that there is no such thing as an unprovoked street encounter, especially from a street or homeless person is naïve.

[Hillrunner]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

I said this before, people just don't get attacked without getting robbed. If there is no motive of robbery, then there is something else that precipitates an attack. That's why the guy who shot his attackers was quick to get a lawyer because there is usually more to a street brawl.

In this case, it looks like the victim provoked the attack. Unfortunately, the attacker responded and he's gonna end up in jail. Even more unfortunate, a guy who was out to have fun ends up dead. Sounds Darwinian to me. Philly is a better place without him. RIP

I take it that you never heard of "Polar Bear Hunting" or the "Knockout game" ? The difference between the two is that Polar Bear Hunting is aimed at just attacking white people, while the Knockout game is geared towards attacking anybody.
People are attacked everyday all over the world for no apparent reason.