In seeing this term-Negadelphian. Has Philly gotten past it yet? What will improve it yet besides just genrtrification?

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by cpomp

I do think Philadelphia's gay options (though very popular) are limited compared to my experiences in NYC, DC, Montreal and Chicago. I think another dance club or rooftop club is needed, whether it caters to men, women or both.

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From your lips to the ears of the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania:

Lawsuit: How a battle over a Center City roof deck led to a discrimination suit | Philadelphia Business Journal

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by MB1562

Toasted is basically a lesbian bar. One of their bouncers is the scariest looking lesbian I've ever seen.

Lol. You haven't met me. My best friend tells me all the time that scare people. My reaction to that is, "Good!".

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

(emphasis added)

From your lips to the ears of the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania:

Lawsuit: How a battle over a Center City roof deck led to a discrimination suit | Philadelphia Business Journal

That whole thing just seems silly to me. Isn't Woodys working on permits for a roof deck as well?

Originally Posted by kyb01

Well, if you are familiar with the Datalounge board there are sometimes threads about missing the old HK or how some neighborhood in NYC or how things were before the 90s, for example, from elder gays( gays over 50). There are things I do miss about it too but that I won't go into it since it's OT and I can't pm you?

I may try to check out that woman's bar although I may be too old..... Lol

I just don't hear or see it as much, and when I do it feels strictly nostalgic, no hostile towns like I often encounter in Philadelphia. Idk why my PMs don't work.

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by kyb01

Lol. You haven't met me. My best friend tells me all the time that scare people. My reaction to that is, "Good!".

I told you that's why you've never been mugged.

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by kyb01

It's not bitterness, imo, but some kind of misplaced nostaglia. I remember much of what's shown in those photos which actually show how depressed/decayed and lacking in investment Center City was.

Wrt the gayborhood and its transformation, there are no women's bars/clubs now. Is that progress?

At least they haven't closed down the massage parlors - that would be true tragedy.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

At least they haven't closed down the massage parlors - that would be true tragedy.

Unless I'm missing something, they pretty much have.

The only "adult" businesses I can think of in that general area now are the adult bookstores/peep shows, Danny's Midnight Confessions (ain't goin' anywhere) and Scorpio (probably ditto).

Maybe over the cigar store on 13th, but you usually see a sign.

The Sansom Cinema (which got the most tasteful entrance a porn palace ever had when its building front got remodeled in the general 13th Street upgrade) is now a Michael Schulson restaurant.

[MB1562]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

Unless I'm missing something, they pretty much have.

The only "adult" businesses I can think of in that general area now are the adult bookstores/peep shows, Danny's Midnight Confessions (ain't goin' anywhere) and Scorpio (probably ditto).

Maybe over the cigar store on 13th, but you usually see a sign.

The Sansom Cinema (which got the most tasteful entrance a porn palace ever had when its building front got remodeled in the general 13th Street upgrade) is now a Michael Schulson restaurant.

Don't forget Club Philly, and then Sansom Street Gym on the other side of Broad.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

I told you that's why you've never been mugged.

No one in my family has ever been mugged including my 98 year old, still pretty active, aunt.