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Old 12-21-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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I would consider that neighborhood to be Burholme, not Fox Chase. The corner property used to be Paese Pizza, which must have been there for 25+ years and then there was something else there briefly so I wouldn’t be overly concerned by the vacant commercial property. I think the other home is coincidentally in the vicinity. Maybe there was a fire or a reno which is causing the windows to be boarded up. I don’t recall seeing any boarded up homes in the area. But I will say that while that area is pretty stable now, it may not be in 10 years (but I guess you could say that about any neighborhood.)
Yeah, I don't know exactly where the border between the two is located....kind of fuzzy. Burholme is a pretty small neighborhood. I think Burholme is slightly less well off than Fox Chase, but it's still considered a decent area--hope it stays that way.

I hope you are right that it's just a coincidence and that the area will stay in good repair. I guess a red flag went up when I saw 2 boarded up properties in that area within a block of each other. I had the thought that the ghetto is starting to creep above Cottman Avenue, but I seriously hope I am wrong.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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Thanks for all your replies, folks!
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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Well, of course the houses would've been much newer looking 40 years ago. I hope you are right that the neighborhood will stay nice.
The Cancer Center, which as I said attracts patients world-wide, will help keep the neighborhood stable as long as it stays there. It's now part of Temple Health, btw.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Burlington County, NJ
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The houses where I lived were built around 1959. The houses pictured are much, much older than that, at least by 20 years. If not much older.
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Old 12-23-2017, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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It looks like the boarded up restaurant could have had a fire or something. Fox Chase seems to still be a nice neighborhood. Some really beautiful blocks there. Closer to Oxford Circle/Lawncrest still may be declining somewhat.
Oxford circle and lawncrest are totally bad now and Have been that way for awhile
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Old 12-23-2017, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Phila Pa
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I believe pretty much the entire Northeast is in decline, but Fox Chase is still one of the better areas.
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Old 12-24-2017, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Yeah, the rest of the surrounding neighborhood still looks nice. So I hope it's just a fluke.

I know that Lawncrest has certainly declined. It was never upscale, but I hear the part below Levick and east of Rising Sun where I grew up is really ghetto-ish now.
FWIW, I don't think any of that part of the Northeast is "upscale."

Fox Chase has a nice village feel, but despite having several very good and classy ethnic restaurants and food shops, it doesn't strike me as terribly tony. (I know the owner of one of those places, the Hop Angel Brauhaus. He lives in Tacony. Now, if you want to see what some intelligent streetscaping can do for a blue-collar business district, I invite you all to take a walk along Torresdale Avenue in Tacony sometime. That's now up there with Oxford Avenue in Fox Chase as the cutest Main Street in the Northeast, IMO. The Hop Angel's owner also has a stake in the Sawtown Tavern in Tacony, which is owned and run by a friend I've known since we both worked at Penn and his life partner.)

The one part of the Northeast that I understand is "tony" is Pine Valley in the Far Northeast. I haven't seen that area yet.

Frankford's Northwood section used to be.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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FWIW, I don't think any of that part of the Northeast is "upscale."
For the most part, I would agree; although parts of Bustleton in the Far NE look pretty nice. I guess it depends on your definition of upscale. It certainly isn't upscale like the neighboring suburbs are.

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Fox Chase has a nice village feel, but despite having several very good and classy ethnic restaurants and food shops, it doesn't strike me as terribly tony. (I know the owner of one of those places, the Hop Angel Brauhaus. He lives in Tacony. Now, if you want to see what some intelligent streetscaping can do for a blue-collar business district, I invite you all to take a walk along Torresdale Avenue in Tacony sometime. That's now up there with Oxford Avenue in Fox Chase as the cutest Main Street in the Northeast, IMO. The Hop Angel's owner also has a stake in the Sawtown Tavern in Tacony, which is owned and run by a friend I've known since we both worked at Penn and his life partner.)
I will take a look. But Tacony, overall, is also a declining area, isn't it?

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The one part of the Northeast that I understand is "tony" is Pine Valley in the Far Northeast. I haven't seen that area yet.
Yeah, Pine Valley...that was the part of Bustleton I was thinking of.

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Frankford's Northwood section used to be.
Yes, the homes there are beautiful, but right up against a really bad area.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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The Cancer Center, which as I said attracts patients world-wide, will help keep the neighborhood stable as long as it stays there. It's now part of Temple Health, btw.
I hope you are right. If adjacent neighborhoods like Lawncrest & Oxford Circle are now considered bad however, it seems like it's inevitable that the decline will spill over into areas like Burholme, Fox Chase & Rhawnhurst.
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Old 12-24-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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The houses where I lived were built around 1959. The houses pictured are much, much older than that, at least by 20 years. If not much older.
Yeah, according to Zillow, they were built in 1925.
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