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Old 12-20-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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I know parts of Northeast Philly are not what they used to be. I know where I grew up in the lower part of Lawncrest is a semi-ghetto now (some would say it's totally ghetto).

It seemed like Fox Chase was holding up pretty well compared to some other neighborhoods in the Lower Northeast, but I wonder if that's beginning to change. I saw some recent pictures of boarded up houses in Fox Chase in recent google pictures here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0611...7i13312!8i6656


And here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0617...7i13312!8i6656


Both of these are within 1 block of each other. It could just be a fluke, but it kind of looks like a bad sign.

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Old 12-21-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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I know parts of Northeast Philly are not what they used to be. I know where I grew up in the lower part of Lawncrest is a semi-ghetto now (some would say it's totally ghetto).

It seemed like Fox Chase was holding up pretty well compared to some other neighborhoods in the Lower Northeast, but I wonder if that's beginning to change. I saw some recent pictures of boarded up houses in Fox Chase in recent google pictures here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0611...7i13312!8i6656


And here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0617...7i13312!8i6656


Both of these are within 1 block of each other. It could just be a fluke, but it kind of looks like a bad sign.

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No one, especially on this board, talks much about Fox Chase/Burholme. So dunno... I always liked it around there and being next to Elkins Park/Melrose Park was a plus, imo. The Cancer Center has in international footprint so as long as the main campus stays on Cottman Ave. I'm not sure if there's sufficient evidence to worry about the neighborhood.
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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It looks like the boarded up restaurant could have had a fire or something. Fox Chase seems to still be a nice neighborhood. Some really beautiful blocks there. Closer to Oxford Circle/Lawncrest still may be declining somewhat.
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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I would consider that neighborhood to be Burholme, not Fox Chase. The corner property used to be Paese Pizza, which must have been there for 25+ years and then there was something else there briefly so I wouldn’t be overly concerned by the vacant commercial property. I think the other home is coincidentally in the vicinity. Maybe there was a fire or a reno which is causing the windows to be boarded up. I don’t recall seeing any boarded up homes in the area. But I will say that while that area is pretty stable now, it may not be in 10 years (but I guess you could say that about any neighborhood.)
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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I feel like Fox Chase in enclosed by a lot of so-so areas, and not convenient to go to many other places. So, while I don't think it will go bad unless the Cancer center shuts down, I don't see it getting better.
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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I lived on the other side of Verree in Fox Chase from the late 60s until early 80s and I'm sure it's still nice. Pennypack Park was right behind our house. Our neighborhood looked nothing at all like those two pictures. Homes were much newer compared to the pictured ones and all brick. I lived within walking distance of Knowlton Mansion at Verree and Rhawn.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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I lived on the other side of Verree in Fox Chase from the late 60s until early 80s and I'm sure it's still nice. Pennypack Park was right behind our house. Our neighborhood looked nothing at all like those two pictures. Homes were much newer compared to the pictured ones and all brick. I lived within walking distance of Knowlton Mansion at Verree and Rhawn.
I used to go to a dentist not far from that mansion at Veree/Strahle back in the mid to late 1980s. At that time, I lived in he suburbs but was impressed at how pleasant a neighborhood it was. But that was a long time ago and things change. Hopefully it will stay nice.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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I feel like Fox Chase in enclosed by a lot of so-so areas, and not convenient to go to many other places. So, while I don't think it will go bad unless the Cancer center shuts down, I don't see it getting better.
Yes, a lot of the areas around Fox Chase used to be nicer when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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It looks like the boarded up restaurant could have had a fire or something. Fox Chase seems to still be a nice neighborhood. Some really beautiful blocks there. Closer to Oxford Circle/Lawncrest still may be declining somewhat.
Yeah, the rest of the surrounding neighborhood still looks nice. So I hope it's just a fluke.

I know that Lawncrest has certainly declined. It was never upscale, but I hear the part below Levick and east of Rising Sun where I grew up is really ghetto-ish now.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:47 PM
 
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I lived on the other side of Verree in Fox Chase from the late 60s until early 80s and I'm sure it's still nice. Pennypack Park was right behind our house. Our neighborhood looked nothing at all like those two pictures. Homes were much newer compared to the pictured ones and all brick. I lived within walking distance of Knowlton Mansion at Verree and Rhawn.
Well, of course the houses would've been much newer looking 40 years ago. I hope you are right that the neighborhood will stay nice.
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