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Old 01-30-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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I feel old reading this thread.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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I never got this fascination with people who used to live in a neighborhood 30+ years ago but left and now want to say things like "This neighborhood was so great back then" or "this neighborhood isn't like how it used to be". If your neighborhood was so great back then, why did so many people leave that neighborhood in droves? If it was such a great neighborhood, the residents living there during that time would've fought hard to keep that neighborhood great! The majority of the people who used to live in those places, didn't pass down their homes to their future family lineages. With all that wealth and stability leaving the neighborhood, what did you think would happen to those places generations later?

The people who left the neighborhood only have themselves to blame for the long term decline of that neighborhood. Then they want to comeback 40 years later and complain how crappy the neighborhood is now??
They WERE great neighborhoods, but people die and people sell their homes and move for a variety of reasons (divorce, job, need for more space, etc). There isn't always somebody to just leave it to ... That opens the door for investors and people with lower standards.
Staying and fighting doesn't work.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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They WERE great neighborhoods, but people die and people sell their homes and move for a variety of reasons (divorce, job, need for more space, etc). There isn't always somebody to just leave it to ... That opens the door for investors and people with lower standards.
Staying and fighting doesn't work.
It seems to be working just fine in plenty of neighborhoods in the suburbs.
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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It seems to be working just fine in plenty of neighborhoods in the suburbs.
No, it doesn't ...


Bensalem, Drexel Hill, Upper Darby, Croyden, Bristol, Pennsauken ... Plenty of them heading down the wrong path.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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No, it doesn't ...


Bensalem, Drexel Hill, Upper Darby, Croyden, Bristol, Pennsauken ... Plenty of them heading down the wrong path.
There is a lot of financially stable neighborhoods in the Philly suburbs and I'm not even including any in the Main Line. Please don't pretend that this is some rarity in suburban PA. Pretty much every Philly area poster on citydata knows this but apparently you don't.
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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There is a lot of financially stable neighborhoods in the Philly suburbs and I'm not even including any in the Main Line. Please don't pretend that this is some rarity in suburban PA. Pretty much every Philly area poster on citydata knows this but apparently you don't.
Apparently I forget about the 'fight' the Main Line had to put up to keep their neighborhoods.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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Safe? Wow, if you were originally from Summerdale or Wissinoming, I might see what you are saying but to my eyes, Fox Chase and Bustleton are about as safe as they ever were or at least not unsafe. Unless the word "safe" is code for something else, I don't think your lamenting is rational.

They(Fox Chase/Bustleton)are as safe and, sorry not sorry, as "white bread" as they ever were. I was in Fox Chase this past Sat.

As long as the Fox Chase Cancer Center stays where it is, Fox Chase will be fine.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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There is a lot of financially stable neighborhoods in the Philly suburbs and I'm not even including any in the Main Line. Please don't pretend that this is some rarity in suburban PA. Pretty much every Philly area poster on citydata knows this but apparently you don't.
You're arguing with a troll who created an account just to troll.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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I never got this fascination with people who used to live in a neighborhood 30+ years ago but left and now want to say things like "This neighborhood was so great back then" or "this neighborhood isn't like how it used to be". If your neighborhood was so great back then, why did so many people leave that neighborhood in droves? If it was such a great neighborhood, the residents living there during that time would've fought hard to keep that neighborhood great! The majority of the people who used to live in those places, didn't pass down their homes to their future family lineages. With all that wealth and stability leaving the neighborhood, what did you think would happen to those places generations later?

The people who left the neighborhood only have themselves to blame for the long term decline of that neighborhood. Then they want to comeback 40 years later and complain how crappy the neighborhood is now??
On a smaller scale there was also black flight of sorts. Lots of educated and middle class blacks left W. Philly, for instance, once issues like red-lining became less omnipresent. I know about it because that's what my parents did. My mom grew up in the suburbs so it seemed natural for them. A lot of their friends ended up in West Mt Airy and Cedarbrook. Another set of their friends were among the first residents of Yorktown in N. Philly. Still others others went to S. Jersey.
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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Default New Chinatown for NE Philadelphia

I heard on the news that there was a first-time Chinese New Year festival in the Northeast this weekend, complete with red and gold fireworks and a dragon dancing in the street. The news story said that the Northeast has become a magnet for Asian families that have been priced out of New York. Could this be the sort of cultural revitalization that the area is looking for? Your thoughts...
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