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Old 09-24-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I haven't been yet (I'll stop by next week when I'm down there), but the offerings are the same you'd find in any low-end suburban mall just about anywhere. What's unique about the place other than its location? The AMC will be great, but the stores are just pretty much 'blah'.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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What is there to miss about it? I haven't been to the new mall yet but I've seen pictures, and just by the pictures I can already tell it's one hundred times better than before. The old gallery was a total embarrassment to the city, as it's close to tourist attractions such as the Liberty Bell and Old City, so out of towners would often find their way into the mall and see the dump it used to be.. filled with homeless drug addicts, sketchy people, teenagers skipping school causing trouble in there.. etc. Oh, and walking through the place there was always smells of urine, body odor, or something else horrible.
Someone described it as lipstick on a pig. If you don't change the clientele you're not going to change the long term outcome for the mall. That remains to be seen. As been mentioned by others, it doesn't have the high end retail to attract suburbanites or affluent center city residents. Once the novelty wears off, we will see what happens.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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I haven't been yet (I'll stop by next week when I'm down there), but the offerings are the same you'd find in any low-end suburban mall just about anywhere. What's unique about the place other than its location? The AMC will be great, but the stores are just pretty much 'blah'.
City Winery is a good addition too but yes the stores aren’t anything special.. That being said, if you walk through it does look very nice, bright and clean and overall the renovations are a big net positive.
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Old 09-24-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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A couple of takes on FDP for you all to consider:

Elizabeth Wellington, in the Inquirer, writes that when you take the waning of luxury designer retail in the city and combine it with the mix of tenants at FDP, you realize that really, we're all middlebrow and casual at heart:

The Fashion District reveals the truth about what kind of fashion city Philly really is | The Philadelphia Inquirer

And frankly, anyone who considers a mall containing American Eagle, Levi's, Nike, Hollister, Skechers and Pandora "low-end" needs to have their status meters adjusted, IMO. One Spencer's, one Journeys and a Zumiez doesn't a downmarket mall make when everything else is upmarket from there - yes, including H&M (which I refer to as "the Ikea of fashion." Both companies are Swedish).

My take looks more at how the mall looks and functions - and whether PREIT succeeded, or will succeed, at tackling the three big problems that laid the Gallery low in its last years. The jury's still out, but I think some of the fixes will work:

Fashion District Philadelphia: A Work-in-Progress Review | Philadelphia Magazine
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: New York City
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A couple of takes on FDP for you all to consider:

Elizabeth Wellington, in the Inquirer, writes that when you take the waning of luxury designer retail in the city and combine it with the mix of tenants at FDP, you realize that really, we're all middlebrow and casual at heart:

The Fashion District reveals the truth about what kind of fashion city Philly really is | The Philadelphia Inquirer

And frankly, anyone who considers a mall containing American Eagle, Levi's, Nike, Hollister, Skechers and Pandora "low-end" needs to have their status meters adjusted, IMO. One Spencer's, one Journeys and a Zumiez doesn't a downmarket mall make when everything else is upmarket from there - yes, including H&M (which I refer to as "the Ikea of fashion." Both companies are Swedish).

My take looks more at how the mall looks and functions - and whether PREIT succeeded, or will succeed, at tackling the three big problems that laid the Gallery low in its last years. The jury's still out, but I think some of the fixes will work:

Fashion District Philadelphia: A Work-in-Progress Review | Philadelphia Magazine
I didn't care for her article, it was largely a mish-mash of generalizations based on her perceptions of Philadelphia, fashion and The Gallery / Fashion District.
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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My personal take, and apologizes if it offends anyone, but PREIT/Macerich have been very careful about the branding of this place. I really think they have avoided the word ‘mall’ because 1. Malls are dying around the country 2. They don’t want people (kids hanging out after school) treating it like any old dumpy mall. This place was never destined to be some Mecca of shopping like its name might imply. I remember when basically all they had announced was a portion of it would be converted into a movie theater. Where people expecting Louis Vuitton to be announced second? Lol. It is what it is.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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I've come to agree after having too-lofty expectations.

If this works, the better stores will move in. I think there's a ton of wait-and-see at the moment but location alone (along this corridor with mass transit feeding into it) will help this work. The old sucky low grade shops that were here before(no offense to anyone here who had a shop in there) did it no favors. A clean up and a healthy dose of mid-level retail should be enough to provide solid footing.

It'll get there.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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It has a not yet opened foreign currency exchange booth which is a welcome addition.
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