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Old Yesterday, 12:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
Why does it bug you? What does it matter what people think about it?

Because we were discussing perceptions of cities and whether they're warranted or not.
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Old Yesterday, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Because we were discussing perceptions of cities and whether they're warranted or not.
That doesn't answer the question about why you would care about how SF is viewed in a thread that's ostensibly about tourism in Philadelphia.
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Old Yesterday, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It's annoying because a ton of NY is gritty even in Manhattan.
New York would not be on anyone's list not that long ago.

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In 1977’s Annie Hall, Woody Allen might have had Straton’s speech in mind when he joked, “The rest of the country looks upon New York like we're left-wing Communist, Jewish, homosexual, pornographers.” In New York Calling, urbanist Marshall Berman recalled the anti-New York venom that streamed from 1970s America, when politicians asked their constituents, “Should New York live or die?” And their constituents chanted, “Die! Die! Die!” The city had reached its modern-day pinnacle of exceptionalism—and delinquency. For much of the nation, and for the conservative leaders in Washington, New York was a perversion, a dirty town full of dirty people, and now it would be punished and reprogrammed.
Then 9/11 happened.

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The Big Apple, the Rotten Apple, was done for. The vulnerable, diminished city became as acceptably American as apple pie. Soon after 9/11, the New York Observer announced, “The Heartland Loves New York,” claiming it had become “the most American of all cities.” A year later, The Economist called New York a “sweeter Apple” and “a nicer place” since the attacks. Sweet and nice? Those two words had never, I would wager, in the city’s long and turbulent history been seriously used to describe the unwieldy, throbbing thing that was New York.
Jeremiah's Vanishing New York
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Old Yesterday, 01:32 PM
 
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That doesn't answer the question about why you would care about how SF is viewed in a thread that's ostensibly about tourism in Philadelphia.

Oh I see, you're one of those people.
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Old Yesterday, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Oh I see, you're one of those people.
If you mean a "I couldn't care less about what people think of my city because it has no impact on my day to day life" person, then you would be correct.

The only reason I would care about something like this is if I owned property and had a vested interest in a bunch of yuppies invading my city and raising my property values. Why would I care otherwise?
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Old Today, 04:15 PM
 
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That doesn't answer the question about why you would care about how SF is viewed in a thread that's ostensibly about tourism in Philadelphia.
Because Philadelphia has to fight harder for tourist recognition when SF tends to get it automatically in spite of its homeless problem.
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