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Old 12-11-2020, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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What's the best way to measure it? By MHI, GradHo is #1 now.



https://www.inquirer.com/news/povert...-20191219.html


Ok, so with media you really need to dive into the facts and analyze the data.

Graduate Hospital in no way is the #1 in the city.

If you read the article. You will see the breakdown is not neighborhood specific at all.

They generalized all of Center City as one entire neighborhood.

They even generalized Graduate Hospital.

And they called it. The "Graduate Hospital area" in the article, which if you look at the data provided, it actually is more solid Fitler Square and even a portion of Rittenhouse with the fancy streets of Delancy than Graduate Hospital.


They put ALL of Center City from Chinatown to Rittenhouse as one.

This is not an accurate article and should not be cited, if you want to break down neighborhoods.

Read the source and data, before posting the facts.

Hot new trends sell clicks and views. Not facts these days which is unfortunate.

Graduate Hospital in no way is the most wealthy neighborhood in Philadelphia at all.

The #1/#2 neighborhood is most definitely Society Hill and Rittenhouse. Followed by Fitler Square and Chestnut Hill.
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Old 12-12-2020, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Ok, so with media you really need to dive into the facts and analyze the data.

Graduate Hospital in no way is the #1 in the city.

If you read the article. You will see the breakdown is not neighborhood specific at all.

They generalized all of Center City as one entire neighborhood.

They even generalized Graduate Hospital.

And they called it. The "Graduate Hospital area" in the article, which if you look at the data provided, it actually is more solid Fitler Square and even a portion of Rittenhouse with the fancy streets of Delancy than Graduate Hospital.


They put ALL of Center City from Chinatown to Rittenhouse as one.

This is not an accurate article and should not be cited, if you want to break down neighborhoods.

Read the source and data, before posting the facts.

Hot new trends sell clicks and views. Not facts these days which is unfortunate.

Graduate Hospital in no way is the most wealthy neighborhood in Philadelphia at all.

The #1/#2 neighborhood is most definitely Society Hill and Rittenhouse. Followed by Fitler Square and Chestnut Hill.
No on the bolded part: if you look at the clickable map, Center City indeed contains the entire 1682 Town/1701 City of Philadelphia, from Vine to South streets, with hooks added along the Delaware waterfront to the north and south. Graduate Hospital (or "Schuylkill/SW Center City" on the map) begins at South Street both on the map and IRL.

But the map combines many neighborhoods, not just the seven that together comprise Center City. Northern Liberties and Fishtown are one, as are Oxford Circle and Castor Gardens. So are Queen Village and Pennsport; separate those two and you'll find Queen Village's MHI is significantly higher.

I don't think this was "clickbait." It may have been done to make the neighborhoods easier to click on at the scale with which the map was reproduced online. Since the data in question should have been available by Census tract, it should have been possible to break out the individual neighborhoods, so I would be curious as to why the Inky chose to combine a number of them here.

Of late, the order of neighborhoods by MHI has been Society Hill / Chestnut Hill / Rittenhouse (including Fitler). But based on the ACS figures reported here, Chestnut Hill may have slipped to third, as its MHI fell 22 percent since the last 5-year ACS report and is now only in the five figures. And if the MHI in Schuylkill/SW Center City — which throws together affluent Graduate Hospital and poorer Schuylkill ("Devil's Pocket") — is now in the six figures, then G-Ho alone should now rank in the top three, displacing Chestnut Hill.
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