Suggestions for soon to be freshman at Temple (Bradford, Rochester: appointed, neighborhoods)

[Hedonism]

The anti-car people just don't give up, do they?


Some people like having a car, some don't. It can't be that big a problem because I see cars all over the place in every neighborhood.


OP - Tell your daughter to keep the car, you don't want her on public transit in that area (or any area in Philadelphia.) Yes, a car can be a teeny bit stressful in a congested neighborhood, but it's nothing compared to the stress of dealing with public transit and the people who use it. Not to mention standing around in the cold, wind, rain, snow and heat waiting to get picked up.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Hedonism

The anti-car people just don't give up, do they?


Some people like having a car, some don't. It can't be that big a problem because I see cars all over the place in every neighborhood.


OP - Tell your daughter to keep the car, you don't want her on public transit in that area (or any area in Philadelphia.) Yes, a car can be a teeny bit stressful in a congested neighborhood, but it's nothing compared to the stress of dealing with public transit and the people who use it. Not to mention standing around in the cold, wind, rain, snow and heat waiting to get picked up.

That’s rather extreme. Even if the OP’s daughter decides to keep the car, she can (and should!) still take advantage of public transit when parking would be expensive and difficult. The car would come in handy for bigger errands, like grocery store runs, and weekend outings outside the city.

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by ElijahAstin

That’s rather extreme. Even if the OP’s daughter decides to keep the car, she can (and should!) still take advantage of public transit when parking would be expensive and difficult. The car would come in handy for bigger errands, like grocery store runs, and weekend outings outside the city.

Yes--it doesn't have to be one or the other. I don't quite get always telling people to ditch their cars --I mean they already have one and most likely will be using it to move. It is an added convenience no matter what part of the city (although it can be an expensive "convenience" if in Center City--but even then my Sister lives at 5th and Delancey with a car she barely uses but still finds parking near her apartment on the rare days it's used.


In other areas like Northwest Philly having a car will be a definite convenience with few drawbacks --this is still a country built around the auto even though Philly is not and SEPTA hopefully is improving.



If Regional Rail actually does implement 15 Min headways I can say I will for sure think of ditching my car.

[thedirtypirate]

Originally Posted by tarch

Hi all

This question has been asked before and I saw the previous replies. However the ones I saw are quite old threads. If I missed any new threads I apologize and please direct me there.

My daughter is hoping to join Temple this year as a freshman. She grew up in a calm midwest town with not a lot of risk. I think she is reasonably sensible but I guess we never know.

What is it like in terms of safety around Temple university? She wishes to live off campus and she has a car. Is it a reasonable area to drive in and out of safety-wise? She also wishes to pick up some part time work in the area. She doesn't have to live near TU. Any suggestions on apartments in a driving distance that are safe and reasonable cost wise - 1-1.5k per month should be ok for rental.

Her other option is Chicago.

Any guidance greatly appreciated.

Thank you all

Freshman generally live on campus. That holds true at nearly any university. Living in a dorm is quintessential part of the college experience. There are a number of very large 'off-campus' apartment buildings adjacent to Temple's campus that are popular with students. Many offer parking.

https://www.theviewatmontgomery.com/

https://www.pursuevantage.com/

https://pmcpropertygroup.com/properties/kardon-atlantic-apartments

https://www.americancampus.com/stude...village-temple

https://campuslivingvillages.com/uni...emple-housing/

https://www.templegreenery.com/

https://thenest1324.com/

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

Yes--it doesn't have to be one or the other. I don't quite get always telling people to ditch their cars --I mean they already have one and most likely will be using it to move. It is an added convenience no matter what part of the city (although it can be an expensive "convenience" if in Center City--but even then my Sister lives at 5th and Delancey with a car she barely uses but still finds parking near her apartment on the rare days it's used.


In other areas like Northwest Philly having a car will be a definite convenience with few drawbacks --this is still a country built around the auto even though Philly is not and SEPTA hopefully is improving.



If Regional Rail actually does implement 15 Min headways I can say I will for sure think of ditching my car.

The biggest issue is that the overwhelming majority of colleges don’t allow freshmen to park on-campus if they live on-campus. In addition to the fact that the OP’s daughter is leaning towards living off-campus, Temple is the rare university that seems to let freshmen bring their cars to campus—probably a nod to its historic commuter school roots.

Bringing your car to an urban campus is certainly a luxury. Parking on-campus generally isn’t too expensive, but insurance, gas, and vehicle wear-and-tear can add up. However, the OP hasn’t raised those concerns, so as long as that amount of money isn’t an object, you can have your car (and eat it? Drive it?) too.

[PHL10]

Originally Posted by ElijahAstin

That’s rather extreme. Even if the OP’s daughter decides to keep the car, she can (and should!) still take advantage of public transit when parking would be expensive and difficult.

I agree, that is a silly comment. Riding on transit is much safer than the neighborhoods it travels through. For as much as crime is crazy right now, haven't heard much crime on transit. Generally speaking, it's safe, cheap, and convenient.

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by ElijahAstin

The biggest issue is that the overwhelming majority of colleges don’t allow freshmen to park on-campus if they live on-campus. In addition to the fact that the OP’s daughter is leaning towards living off-campus, Temple is the rare university that seems to let freshmen bring their cars to campus—probably a nod to its historic commuter school roots.

Bringing your car to an urban campus is certainly a luxury. Parking on-campus generally isn’t too expensive, but insurance, gas, and vehicle wear-and-tear can add up. However, the OP hasn’t raised those concerns, so as long as that amount of money isn’t an object, you can have your car (and eat it? Drive it?) too.

That is true--I was thinking OP's daughter was looking at Grad school but it's different if she will be an Undergrad Freshman. I went to school in The Bronx and 1 kid (from Brooklyn no less) had his car on campus which was very rare among Freshman undergrads. I think he just loved his car lol.

[FKD19124]

Oh really now????
what types of school do you consider academically challenging? My program was very challenging when I was a student at Temple. And I am not talking about some BS program like Art History.

Originally Posted by Wells5

Curious. Do you live in PA? If you don't, the out of state tuition at Temple was almost $30,000 for the 2019-2020 academic year. Bound to be more this year. Note: Temple is not that academically challenging a university.

[FKD19124]

I agree. Public Transportation in the city these days is not safe.

Originally Posted by Hedonism

The anti-car people just don't give up, do they?


Some people like having a car, some don't. It can't be that big a problem because I see cars all over the place in every neighborhood.


OP - Tell your daughter to keep the car, you don't want her on public transit in that area (or any area in Philadelphia.) Yes, a car can be a teeny bit stressful in a congested neighborhood, but it's nothing compared to the stress of dealing with public transit and the people who use it. Not to mention standing around in the cold, wind, rain, snow and heat waiting to get picked up.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

Oh really now????
what types of school do you consider academically challenging? My program was very challenging when I was a student at Temple. And I am not talking about some BS program like Art History.

As usual, he has no idea what he’s talking about.