Want to relocate to Philly area, looking for the right suburb (Philadelphia: sale, real estate)

[MoorestownResident]

Originally Posted by BPP1999

Have you been to Blue Bell? Lower Gwynedd? Whitemarsh Township (about 1,000 acres of estates/farmland and adjacent to Chestnut Hill)? These are inner suburbs with open spaces, parks, and trees. Not all of SEPA is Philadelphia and KOP. Try heading west out 422 - yes, lots of development, but also lots of preserved land. Try heading down 202 from Lambertville - communities with large lots, large houses, very rustic.

Why do you insist on lambasting PA every chance you get? Are you jealous of the attention PA gets because we have most of the good jobs, many more colleges/universities, historical attractions, and all the museums worth mentioning? What is it, exactly? Do your coworkers (by the way, don't you work in PA?) constantly demean NJ and this is your way to vent?

I'm just surprised at the lack of knowledge on this board of what has been happening in the region that you live. You actually should feel good about it. I prefer NJ, you prefer PA, that's fine and dandy, no issues.

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

I'm just surprised of the lack of knowledge on this board of what has been happening in the region that you live. You actually should feel good about it. I prefer NJ, you prefer PA, that's fine and dandy, no issues.

I'm not disagreeing here: where do we find such information? I don't read the Courier Post on a regular basis. Do you read the Inquirer? Does the Inquirer talk about SJ being a bastion of job creation?

[MoorestownResident]

Lots of stuff, NJ Biz, company press releases, local papers, Philly Biz Journal, Philly Fed, etc.

http://www.teambuildersplus.com/pdf/....pbj.sj25..pdf

[BPP1999]

Yes, I actually used to subscribe to the PBJ.

You know, you really don't have to prove anything to anyone on these boards. You don't need to start out swinging all the time. I've never seen, heard, or read anything that implies that SJ will take over as the "center" of the Philly Metro Area. It's good to have civic pride, but let's not get crazy.

[MoorestownResident]

I know it, just thought I'd enlighten some of you and have some fun at the same time.

[Tone509]

Let's all take a breath, everyone. It's really not that serious.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

The greater Philly area goes up to Mercer County, NJ and areas of deep South Jersey are developing rapidly further expanding the region's viability. The point is, however, that Burlington County and other more southern areas have been developed with smart growth initiatves and open space policies that far exceed anything in PA. In addition, Burlington County, NJ was at one point of the top counties in the country for number of acres preserved from development. The implications are clear - SJ has a very bright future with more and more high paying jobs and upper middle class families relocating from other higher cost of living areas like NY state. They want high quality of life with access to everything. Who do you think is paying that $16,400? PA is done - it was developed with the mindset of an 18 year old and very poor local govt. The only growth spot in PA of any consequence is Lancaster, PA and the Lehigh Valley and they are too far out to be taken seriously. In addition, Mount Laurel has basically become the new corporate gateway to Philly region with the amount of office space, temp corporate housing, hotels, conferences. There is reason why property taxes are high, schools are being built and expanded. Sure the govt is corrupt and bankrupt but there is no slowing the SJ tide. It is the engine of growth to the state and the region at large.

This kid is delusional.

Chester County population growth from 2000-2006 was 11.2 %
The best in South Jersey was Gloucester 10.3%

Avg. Household income in Chester County $70,000
Avg Household income in Gloucester County $59,000


This kind of puts things in perspective.

Moorestown NJ
population- 19,000
per capita income-$42,154
household income-$78,826

Lower Merion Pa.
population 60,000
per capita income $55,526
Avg Household Income-$86,373

Radnor Township Pa. adjacent to LM
population -31,000
per capita income $41,297
household income-$74,986

Gladwyne Pa.
population -5,000
per capita income-$90,940
Avg Household income- $159,906

And it just keeps going and going until you hit Downingtown.

[dderderian]

To give you a more specific answer to your question. We must first consider when would you be making your move and how much are you willing to spend. There can be plenty of places that may meet your needs, but I would need more information to create your perfect atmosphere.

[MoorestownResident]

Originally Posted by rainrock

This kid is delusional.

Chester County population growth from 2000-2006 was 11.2 %
The best in South Jersey was Gloucester 10.3%

Avg. Household income in Chester County $70,000
Avg Household income in Gloucester County $59,000


This kind of puts things in perspective.

Moorestown NJ
population- 19,000
per capita income-$42,154
household income-$78,826

Lower Merion Pa.
population 60,000
per capita income $55,526
Avg Household Income-$86,373

Radnor Township Pa. adjacent to LM
population -31,000
per capita income $41,297
household income-$74,986

Gladwyne Pa.
population -5,000
per capita income-$90,940
Avg Household income- $159,906

And it just keeps going and going until you hit Downingtown.

Yeah, average household income in Moorestown is $78K, that makes sense. Try accuracy first. Wake up, already, common sense should prevail.

Show me ONE house in PA that is more expensive than SJ including property taxes.

[MoorestownResident]

You really have to wake up dude.

Comparable homes:

Gladwyne 4 bed, 2.5 baths, 50 years old, $564,000, 1 acre lot

Single Family Home - 1601 Winston Rd, Gladwyne, PA, 19035 - Realtor.com

Cherry Hill, 4 bedroom, 2.5 baths, 35 years old, $550,000, 0.38 acre lot.

Prudential Fox and Roach - Home Search / Property Profile

TAXES $10,700.

Your claims are just baseless. I would not argue Gloucester County is just as expensive as the best areas of PA because you will get more house for the money, though taxes are rising quickly down there, but housing costs in SNJ are simply pricing more people out of suitable 4 bedroom housing than the PA burbs, including the main line.