'Fleeing' Philadelphia (New Castle, Houston, Penn: house, new construction, tile)

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by toobusytoday

You all might be hartened to know that my 16 year old nephew, who lives near Phoenix Arizona, is coming to visit and has requested to visit Philadelphia (we live in Lehigh County)

No offense but Lehigh County is almost the opposite of Philadelphia!
I lived there before here and now going back there there people there seem so...so I dunno,wishy washy I almost turned into one of them,now I'm turning into a hardened city person
I'm surprised you're not more offended at the hard comments,when I go to visit LV anyone with a loud voice seems to alarm them.

[toobusytoday]

People are people and there are loud people in small towns as well as big cities. You should hear my husband and our friends when they watch the Eagles play. We have lived in five states, and four counties here in PA including Montgomery, Delaware and Chester. We even lived for 10 months in a trailer in West Virginia, a low point. I never thought of our moving was "fleeing", but that move was sort of like it!

Moving around so much made me realize what I liked and didn't like. I don't think I'd ever like living in a city but I very much like to visit them. I love the vibe of Philadelphia, especially the historical section. My husband is an Eagles season ticket holder, used to be in the rowdy 700 section of the vet. He had to flee that area though and now is an upstanding citizen in the Pepsi zone.

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by toobusytoday

People are people and there are loud people in small towns as well as big cities. You should hear my husband and our friends when they watch the Eagles play. We have lived in five states, and four counties here in PA including Montgomery, Delaware and Chester. We even lived for 10 months in a trailer in West Virginia, a low point. I never thought of our moving was "fleeing", but that move was sort of like it!

Moving around so much made me realize what I liked and didn't like. I don't think I'd ever like living in a city but I very much like to visit them. I love the vibe of Philadelphia, especially the historical section. My husband is an Eagles season ticket holder, used to be in the rowdy 700 section of the vet. He had to flee that area though and now is an upstanding citizen in the Pepsi zone.

See to me that's a nightmare,and unfortunately I got 'stuck' in it...
I never had any luck with the Philadelphia area,going way back to 1990 when I first ventured down to check out the Art Institute for school. Always had bad experiences.

You mentioned areas you didn't click with,have you ever been to a place that you just got a bad vibe with? Well that's here to me.

You mentioned West Virginia was the low point,when I lived in VA that was my high point.

I guess you really do have to live other places sometimes to see what you have. I've lived in NJ also but after this I know I want out of the northeast for good!

[BluerSkies]

Does anyone, beside New Yorkers, believe that they live in a world class city? Seattle? Not so much. Small town on the edge of a big ocean that got lucky in the tech revolution. If it wasn't for Microsoft, Seattle would be feeling the strain of the downturn in aviation and logging. It's might parochial out here in the Pacific Northwest. Pretty, sure, but parochial.

[loose cannon]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

No offense but Lehigh County is almost the opposite of Philadelphia!
I lived there before here and now going back there there people there seem so...so I dunno,wishy washy I almost turned into one of them,now I'm turning into a hardened city person
I'm surprised you're not more offended at the hard comments,when I go to visit LV anyone with a loud voice seems to alarm them.

Im confused about the loud voice part since the jabronies around here do not seem to mind the boisterous Cat "Country" jocks on the radio.

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by loose cannon

Im confused about the loud voice part since the jabronies around here do not seem to mind the boisterous Cat "Country" jocks on the radio.

Radio is different.Most of them pretty much sound uniform across the country,that's how they're trained.
One of the strange things about LV(a friend pointed it out to me years ago),was that we noticed that the women take the lead most of the time and those are the ones you'll hear above everyone the most while the men are the quiet ones. Kind of a strange reversal to say the least.

[QauterMaine]

Ahm, Philadelphia , is a beautiful storm! It has everthing a needed for a persons development. It is a melting pot of people of all ethnicity & foreign backrounds,
it has a dainty downtown, mean streets, it harbors a frenzy of artists , musicians,
dancers, poets amongst a vast scroll of restaurants, theater, auditoiums, churches & museums! There's trandy areas galore society hill, northern Liberties, Rittenhouse Sqaure..etc. You can also visit a different Bar & Dine spot every weekend for a year!
It's full Native "pHILLY gUYS" AS

[tscrilla]

Originally Posted by Tone509

I don't doubt that Philly has lost residents... but I believe that the drop to the 6th largest city is more due to the rise of Phoenix (pun intended) whose square mileage rivals sprawled-out LA.

Good point. I used to live in Phoenix and you wouldn't believe the sq miles of that city, it's ridiculous and is the epitomy of urban sprawl.

[solibs]

If Philadelphia could annex all of its suburbs (as Phoenix has done in Arizona) then Philly would be the 2nd largest city in the country.

City boundaries that have been static for 150 years mean nothing. What matters is that the Philadelphia metro is still larger than Phoenix and unless they find some more water, cheaper gas, and 400 miles of passenger rail then Philly will remain larger.

BTW - I don't trust census estimates for anything. In 1997 they were saying that the 2000 census would show Philly losing 150,000 people from 1990. The city lost 65,000. The early 90's were pretty brutal on this city. Now they're saying, despite all of the immigration and redevelopment going on that the city is going to lose the same amount of people between 2000 and 2010. If you live here you know it's a pretty ridiculous claim.

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by solibs

I don't trust census estimates for anything. In 1997 they were saying that the 2000 census would show Philly losing 150,000 people from 1990. The city lost 65,000. The early 90's were pretty brutal on this city. Now they're saying, despite all of the immigration and redevelopment going on that the city is going to lose the same amount of people between 2000 and 2010. If you live here you know it's a pretty ridiculous claim.

Not necessarily...in the 90s it was probably all the south Philly Italians taking off to south Jersey and nowadays it's probably people coming in for schooling and then getting the heck out!...
At least that's some of what I've been hearing