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09-22-2008, 06:24 PM
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Actually a few friends of mine got shot at not too long ago in Northern Liberties. There was a rape in the neighborhood. Newer residents (read: yuppies) are continually and relentlessly robbed at gunpoint. Unless you're a native of the neighoborhood (such as myself) you don't really have to worry about getting mugged, but the crime rate is pretty high for the neighborhood. Most of it never gets reported though.
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09-22-2008, 07:53 PM
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Montgomery County might as well be another state.
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That's pretty hurtful, man...
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09-23-2008, 12:41 AM
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What I meant to say is that the murder rate in Philadelphia is worse than Atlanta's.
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They're basically the same, for now, and at the end of this year Atlanta will be worse again.
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I have a house in Northern Liberties. There are shootings there as well as plenty of robberies. Come to Northern Liberties at night and walk around and then tell me it isn't dangerous.
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I have friends at 5th & Poplar and at 6th & Girard. I'm in Northern Liberties all the time. As recently as two years ago you'd find me at Silk City on a Saturday at 3 in the morning - or maybe over at RUBA. I've certainly shut down the 700 Club more than a few times. I know what the neighborhood is like late-night and it's certainly far less sketchy than my own neighborhood. The neighborhood has clocked 3 murders in 5 years . . . and all of them seem to have revolved around fights at nightclubs on Girard or on Delaware Ave - clubs that are now gone.
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There is a proposal for a Skyscraper for Northern Liberties man, do your research.
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You can pretty much stand anywhere in NoLibs and look east and see 3 condo towers, all over 23 floors, with a 4th going up right next to it, at Delaware & Poplar. You have a bunch of 6-8 story mixed-use bldgs. going up right now at Hancock Square. You have a 12-story condo bldg. that just went up last year at Brown & North American and another that isn't even finished yet near 2nd & Fairmount.
Do my research? I helped write the plan!
If you have friends who are getting shot at in NoLibs it might help to explain your perceptions of the neighborhood.
AFA "yuppies" being relentlessly robbed in the neighborhood . . . in the last 3 months there have been two robberies within the NoLibs boundaries. One of those two was with a weapon and that was at 4th & Spring Garden, on the fringe of the neighborhood in an office/warehouse district where no one lives, at 2 in the morning. So yeah, i'm not exactly shaking in my boots when it's time to head home from North Bowl.
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09-23-2008, 01:16 PM
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Did you read my response? Or just you just didn't even bothered reading and jumped to the knee jerk reaction. The PA legislature blocked legislation that would've made gun owners report lost or stolen guns. Which would help cops track illegal guns and how they are networked. The gun laws Mayor Nutter and other mayors want are the ones that go after ILLEGAL GUNS. Gangbangers aren't the only ones causing the killings. There are homicides that were carried out my normal people who lost their composure and gun happens to be nearby.
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Nutter's proposed laws would limit guns and gun permits for law abiding citizens, not just illegal guns which are already by definition illegal. Criminals don't follow laws, but I am all for getting ILLEGAL guns off the street.
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West Philly has changed a lot since you've been here. I'm never going to the burbs ever again.
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Really? For the better or worse? By looking at the crime stats it looks like the same ole West Philly to me. I used to go to Smokey Joe's. LOL!
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09-23-2008, 03:21 PM
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Turn on the tv,news breaks in...'another,another,another cop shot in Philly'...
TIMELINE: Violence against Philly officers - 9/23/08 - Philadelphia News - 6abc.com
I'm tellin ya these Keystone Kops better start pulling it together and fighting these thugs on their level before there's no cops left!
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09-23-2008, 05:13 PM
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Yeah, because that stuff doesn't happen elsewhere...
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09-23-2008, 05:28 PM
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Most certainly not to the degree of here.
Open your eyes and ears and stop ignoring the blatantly obvious- Philly has a long running record of being at the top of the charts for the most violent city.
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09-23-2008, 05:34 PM
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Really? For the better or worse? By looking at the crime stats it looks like the same ole West Philly to me. I used to go to Smokey Joe's. LOL!
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What crime stats would those be?
I lived in the South Bronx in 1978. It doesn't mean I'm qualified to talk about what it's like there now.
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09-24-2008, 02:33 PM
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What crime stats would those be?
I lived in the South Bronx in 1978. It doesn't mean I'm qualified to talk about what it's like there now.
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The Philadelphia Inquirer
North Philly and West Philly are still the shooting galleries.
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09-24-2008, 03:27 PM
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If one was to zoom in so much as one click one would see, as many on here repeatedly say, that the violence is north of Market and west of 50th St.
You conveniently picked the most violent year out of the last 8. This feature shows a lot more clearly which way things are trending.
Philadelphia Homicides | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2008
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