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Old 02-26-2007, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Expatriate Philadelphian in Northern Virginia
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tone,

that is true but the conservatives dont beat their chest saying that they are the most openminded people on the earth, that they are Liberal which is suppose to mean tolerant and free thinking.

conservatives are preserving the old order, the traditions of family, law and order, convention, family, church, and country--they arent saying they are open to listening to all voices, while the liberals say they are.

that is the difference.
So are you saying that Philly liberals are "hypocritically" close-minded while residents of predominately conservative towns have no problem admitting as such?

Also, I think that one might find more people in say, San Francisco, Austin and Madison "pounding their chests" with progressive pride than in Philly.

But at the very least, it seems we can both find lots of things to love about Philadelphia... and that is a good thing.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:04 PM
 
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yep, thats tthe truth
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:10 PM
 
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So long as those elected to public office is based on skin color....Philly will continue to go down the tubes. Look at Detroit...a cesspool if there ever was one...Philly is headed in that direction. So sad.
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Expatriate Philadelphian in Northern Virginia
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So long as those elected to public office is based on skin color....Philly will continue to go down the tubes. Look at Detroit...a cesspool if there ever was one...Philly is headed in that direction. So sad.
In my lifetime, the record of Philly mayors has been less than stellar overall, regardless of race. Frank Rizzo was just as polarizing a figure - if not even more so - than John Street is today. I give Ed Rendell help to spur the Center City renaissance if at the expense of much of the rest of the city. Wilson Goode made history but unfortunately it's for presiding of the MOVE disaster instead of being the city's first black mayor. I think equal credit/blame can be passed around.

I won't even begin to equate Detroit's issues with Philly. With all due respect to Detroit, Philly's downtown is miles ahead of theirs and is no danger of receding anytime soon what with the empty nesters, New York City refugees and younger professionals populating the apartments and condos. There are certainly some challenging neighborhoods but some successful ones as well. So I will have to respectfully disagree.
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:48 PM
 
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philly is definitely pathetic is the political area, seems they have such an armpit of picks, usually some Union controlled and racial selected goon squad.

we have John Perzel, or Laufenberger and thats it as any competition but sadly they cant win if they are not in the pockets of unions or blacks
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Expatriate Philadelphian in Northern Virginia
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philly is definitely pathetic is the political area, seems they have such an armpit of picks, usually some Union controlled and racial selected goon squad.

we have John Perzel, or Laufenberger and thats it as any competition but sadly they cant win if they are not in the pockets of unions or blacks
I respectfully disagree with the depiction in your first sentence, although I admit that I'm not totally enamored myself with all of the candidates. (As if I still had a vote! LOL)

I do agree that your second sentence more or less depicts reality in Philadelphia politics.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:11 PM
 
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CC Philadelphia is great with tons of restaurants, live music venues, trendy bars, and coffee shops. Otherwise the rest of the city is rife with major problems. The Socialist Democrat mindset must be done away with. People like Irv Homer should and Smerconish should run for Mayor.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:44 AM
 
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Wink Dear Ol' Philly

Having just moved out of Philly I can say that I'll miss it. I lived in a depressed area, over-run with drugs and dummies. But my problems started there when the police actually arrested the main drug dealer in my neighborhood. He had actually been operating there for over 15 years and kept things very quiet and SAFE. No trash, no corner hanging, no street fights, no loitering. After they arrested him and his wife, his teenage sons tried to keep things togeher but failed miserably, and the idiots took over. The last incident I experienced right before I moved was two gunmen grabbed his son's pregnant girlfriend and forced her back into the house and robbed them. The police showed up immediately and I really have no idea what the results were.
But as far as the police answering calls are concerned, my aunt lives in the Bridesburg area and her neighbor's son was beat up on the way home from middle school and they refused to come out because THAT neighborhood wasn't considered a "high enough" crime area for the police to be pulled off somewhere else to attend the complaint.
Hopefully, Gov. Rendell will be able to add the State Police to patrol I-95 and that will add a few more police to the streets.
But in essence I loved the people and their attitudes, and the neighborhood feel that I lived with all my life, (55 years). I also loved downtown. I would go down there almost any time of year and really enjoy the stores and the architecture, the design of the city, and the people were on the whole very friendly.
It IS the city gov. that's the problem and it probably always will be no matter WHAT party is in office.
I had a friend who wanted help from the Redevelopement Authority to fix her crumbling wall in the rear of her home. They refused her because it wasn't visible from the street, so it wouldn't be a possitive contribution to the overall effect of city beautification. So eventually the house fell down and it's still not contributing, and she is homeless.
If one has money and can survive without aid and/or assistance from the powers that be...it's a great place to live.
I guess it's a lot like New Orleans....God blesses the child that's got his own.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:54 PM
 
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Default what Brotherly Love?

I have lived a few places now, and after a year here, I will confidently say Philly is the worst. Even the natives I've met scoff at the idea of 'brotherly love'
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Yes, Center City has many nice attractions to offer, NYC or DC both have even better ones. Most of Philly is decaying ghetto. It dosn't even matter if you are in a 'nice part', an ugly part of town is always the next street over, and just because you live in a ritzy part, it dosn't mean a thug from the crack house a few blacks away can't mug you right in front of your home.

Philly has one of the highest murder rates for a city of its size in the country.

Car insurance rates make it prohibitivly expensive to keep your car legal.

Pedestrians all but dare people to run them over, and drivers always seem eager to cause an accident.

The city government does not protect or serve its citizens, despite the extra money on top of PA's income tax that it drains from its peoples pay.

The job market is pitiful. The service industry especially underpays its employees and is bloated with those who do not do thier job.


Sure, Philly has some great qualities, but you can find the same things or better in cities that are safer, cheaper to live in, and more together. Or your could enjoy the city's few treasures by visiting from the saftey of a suburb.


I do plan to move and have been saving up enough to do so, and I would never reccomend someone live in Philly. The South and West of the US are booming, while the East is dying. And even in the East, cities like NYC and DC are powerhouses that have enough room in thier economy to provide decent jobs, and good enough pockets of nice communities to feel safe in.
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Yes, Center City has many nice attractions to offer, NYC or DC both have even better ones. Most of Philly is decaying ghetto. It dosn't even matter if you are in a 'nice part', an ugly part of town is always the next street over, and just because you live in a ritzy part, it dosn't mean a thug from the crack house a few blacks away can't mug you right in front of your home.
You get carried away when you say "most" of Philadlephia is a ghetto. I was up in Chestnut Hill,Mt Airy,Roxborough Andorra, Overbrook, Manayunk
yesterday and that area is anything but a Ghetto. Add the far northeast,center city,East Falls,University City,Spruce HIll, even parts of south Philly like Packer Park and Pennsport are nowhere close to being ghettoes.

Does the city have bad areas? Absolutely but its incorrect and false to say most of the city is a ghetto. You either don't know the entire city or you have a rusty ax to grind.




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I plan to move and have been saving up enough to do so, and I would never reccomend someone live in Philly. The South and West of the US are booming, while the East is dying. And even in the East, cities like NYC and DC are powerhouses that have enough room in thier economy to provide decent jobs, and good enough pockets of nice communities to feel safe in.

Philly's metro economy is the 4th largest in the country, 9th largest in the world. NYC metro is the largest in the country, largest in the world. As long as DC remains the capitol and NYC remains the financial center the east will always be the heart and soul of this country.


How is this dying

Metro USA $ GDP rankings
NYC- 1st
Philly-4th
Boston 5th
Wash-6th

As far as city comparisons, Washingtons crime rate is higher than Phillys.And if you think parts of NYC don't have ghettoes and crime you are absolutely out of your tree.The old addage The grass is always greener seems to be right up your alley.I'm thinking if you were currently in DC,Queens, Southside of Chicago or La you'd be bitching about getting out of there to.

Also comparing Philly to DC or NY is a bit unfair on its own merit as Philly doesn't have trillions of dollars in government handouts to keep its economy humming such as DC. Philly doesn't have a corporate presence of just about every company in the western world like Manhattan does. NYC and DC have those huge advantages to counteract the fact that the northeast cities kind of became the dumping grounds of the this nations poor over the past 50 years. No freebies here, Philly has to scratch and claw to keep its head above waters as it gets sandwiched between NY , DC not to mention the trend that is the suburban lifestyle and suburban workplace. Philly is as real of a city as you will find in this country, that doesn't necessarily translate into a city paved in gold.

Good luck with your move.

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