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Old 02-17-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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I understand what you mean -- sometimes judges are too lenient on offenders, but I think it's fundamentally important to also get to the root of the crime so tragedies like this don't keep occurring.

At the highest levels of Government they could care less about what goes on in the slums of the ghettos; as a matter of fact, they want crime because it's a business.

Conversely, street thugs could care less and it's obviously demonstrated by there behavior.


So what are "we the people" going to do to solve this issue once and for all? Can it even be solved?
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:25 AM
 
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You can blame the "bleeding heart" judges -- or you can also blame what actually perpetuates crime in these neighborhoods, and that's cyclical poverty, lack of adequate education, and lack of perceived opportunity. At some point you have to ask WHY crime like this is committed? Why does some thug feel like he has to turn to drugs and end up killing a respectable police officer in the process of being caught? It has to do with not feeling like you have a real future. Unfortunately, that's not something that law enforcement has the ability to deal with.
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Actually the blame rests with the dumb... conservatives who ran the country into the ground over the past 8 years. Thanks to the Trillion Dollar War Of No Meaning and the subsequent budget cuts to pay for it, career violent criminals are tossed back onto the street to repeat their offenses...over and over again. And let's not the forget the lobbying NRA Nazis who insist that everyone needs to be able to carry more than one gun, and have blocked all attempts at gun control legislation.

Yeah, it's the bleeding heart liberals alright....left to clean up yet another GOP mess.

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Old 02-26-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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One word: shock.

Instead of placing blame on this or that, why don't we try to put the effort into fixing the situation? And I offer my sympathy for the officer killed and his family. When a cop puts on that uniform, he doesn't expect to not come home. He expects to serve and protect his community. Sure, being killed is a risk. But a cop isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. In my opinion, that's because there is supposed to be a mutual respect among citizens and cops. Philly has obviously lost that.

Why blame the judges? That is just one part of a very complicated system a criminal crosses. If you haven't experienced the judicial system, I don't think you really know what goes into it. Cops take criminals off the streets, but don't interact with them after that. Then the correction officers and probation officers are there to conform them from criminals to law abiding citizens when they are in jail, half-way houses, and back to the streets. Unfortunately, some individuals will never change and always lead the life of a criminal. I do get that. But some could get worked with a little more assistance to help them do better. It's so hard for me to see a grown man/woman that can't even read or write. Why not teach them and give them the skills they need to get a real job? I think with all the budget cuts they should have a little money that can be put towards educating criminals before they hit the streets again. I'd rather have my tax money go towards that than a parade.

Regardless, there is a lack of respect in the city of Philly. I have moved around and consider myself fairly diverse. I've been in Philly for 2.5 years and see things going downhill. Sure, the homicide rate is down from the previous year. But last year there were over 400 murders. I think New York had about that many last year (maybe a little less), and they have around 8 million residents. Crazy! Philly is about 1.5 million residents.
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