Should we live in the city or suburbs?

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Well if you guys keep serving up fastballs, I'll keep hitting them out of the park. I enjoy the Philly region plus you need a SJ representative because there is so much mis-information given to people looking for info.

Its the same agenda, you initiate confrontation on nearly every thread by attacking PA. Incredulously you then attempt to play part of the victim after you are put in your place. If you stop demeaning PA, threads that you get involved in wont deteriorate.

You are allowed to represent South Jersey without bashing Pa..

[MoorestownResident]

I call it as it is. You guys want to post something inane like "Ridley is a nice town" and then try to pass that off to someone presumably innocent looking for info, you can bet I'll set the record straight.

[rainrock]

OP mentioned a budget of $600 k. If the OP had mentioned a budget of $200-300k Ridley would have been a fine suggestion. The problem is that no one on this thread mentioned Ridley on this thread yet you still came in and felt the need to throw PA under the bus at the expense of making South Jersey appear more appealing.

This is the identical scenario of nearly every thread you get involved with in the PA forum and quite frankly I'm surprised its been allowed to continue.

[JHG722]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

I call it as it is. You guys want to post something inane like "Ridley is a nice town" and then try to pass that off to someone presumably innocent looking for info, you can bet I'll set the record straight.

And the problem with that is?

[MoorestownResident]

Originally Posted by rainrock

OP mentioned a budget of $600 k. If the OP had mentioned a budget of $200-300k Ridley would have been a fine suggestion. The problem is that no one on this thread mentioned Ridley on this thread yet you still came in and felt the need to throw PA under the bus at the expense of making South Jersey appear more appealing.

This is the identical scenario of nearly every thread you get involved with in the PA forum and quite frankly I'm surprised its been allowed to continue.

The OP said 30 minute commute or less with $600K and walkability. I suggested Haddonfield and pointed out the commute issues between the two areas, the moderator agreed. End of discussion.

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

Rocker, we've been through this all too often. Over the many months I proved that the average income of Philly/PA is 60K, NJ is 80K, in addition, I showed you that the average estate in Moorestown is priced roughly 15-20% higher than comparable homes on the main line. I showed you the location differences to centers of influence that result in the higher housing costs and higher incomes in NJ. You go 2-3 miles outside of Villanova you are in west conshohocken. You go 20 miles north you are basically in North Carolina. I go 2 miles I am in Mount Laurel or 20 miles north I am in Princeton with easy train access to NYC. I showed you that NJ burbs are closer to center city, closer to the NJ shoreline and AC. It's location. It just isn't an argument.

Moorestown's #1 ranking has to do with wealth, prestige, schools and location - which was also detailed in the NY Times well before the Money ranking. In addition, the largest estate in the mid-atlantic and one of the largest in the country was just built in town, that would be literally the most expensive piece of property in the region. The most expensive property sets value of the rest of the property. I showed you job growth in the NJ burbs have exceeded PA, plus we have the added benefit of northern and central NJ transplants looking for quality of life. It is what it is. I should write a book on the differences in the region and how the PA chamber has misled various publications on incomes and housing costs. You delude yourself into thinking you can buy a house in NJ for 200K. Go shopping for a 4 bedroom house plus consider taxes and tell me what you find out. It is what you get for the money, not what it costs. Princeton and Haddonfield were also ranked very high in that Money issue, higher than any suburban PA town. That issue focused on small town USA.

Plus nobody has heard of the PA towns. There is no moxy. Most people do not even know Villanova U is in Villanova, PA. Gladwyne is unknown. Unfortunately, Philly is not well regarded nationally. Philly is the only major center of influence for the PA burbs. I told you before, move from PA to NJ then you'll be a tier higher up on the scale of life. People are moving to PA from NJ for lower taxes and cost of living. Ironically, those NJ folk tend to be the lower middle class that can't afford the taxes while south jersey gets the higher income NJ folks from other parts of the state and higher income PA folk fleeing Philly for quality of life. NJ will always be PA's big brother. Unless NJ falls into the ocean, it will never change.

You've shown us little, actually.

You've shown us your insecurity.

You've shown us that you are a homer.

You've shown us your argumentative nature.

You've shown us that you are condescending and mean.

You've shown us that you can post something, then refer to it later as if it were, in fact, fact.

You've shown us that you do the same in the Jersey threads: "South Jersey is WAY better than North Jersey. South Jersey has WAY more job growth than North Jersey. South Jersey is WAY classier than North Jersey. New Jersey is WAY better than North Carolina and Florida." Whatever.

Go away. If you are indicative of what lives in Moorestown, and NJ in general, I'm sure glad I don't live there.

If you actually had any "moxy," you'd be running for political office or chamber of commerce position, instead of keying in insults while at work (from your job in Philadelphia, PA, I might add) behind the safety-net of your username.

[MoorestownResident]

I don't think I'm condescending and mean. I would say that I've participated in some healthy debate on PA vs NJ but I'm not the only one. I never said those things about North Jersey nor have I participated in any debates between the differences north or south jersey on the NJ board. I think anyone would agree I have a ton of knowledge and with that you'll get some opinion for free but I'm not out to give out mis-information or put people down. We all make choices in life. I presume you (PA board) are happy with the decisions you make. If you are unhappy and I am striking a chord then frankly the issue is with you and not with me. I am the not the source of your unhappiness. And the other fact is I rarely post here. I would say, in general, most Moorestown residents like having access to Philly but don't ever go to the PA burbs. And the same is probably true of people in the PA burbs.

[JHG722]

Originally Posted by MoorestownResident

I don't think I'm condescending and mean.

That's truly a laugh and a half.

[MoorestownResident]

Condescending maybe but not mean. For example, I don't bash Sassygirl for moving from Cherry Hill to the PA burbs.

[Tone509]

We are going through another circular debate about preferred areas. This particular one seems to have a New Jersey slant.

I would agree that no area is "superior" per se. Every area has its merits; even some of the more "imperfect" working-class areas might appeal to those with a very limited budget.

For the sake of the original poster and other interested parties, I'd suggest we "call it even" with this post. We can have a healthy discussion while respecting each other and our opinions. Respecting this request will lengthen the life of this thread as well as full member participation.

Thanks!