Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Pennsylvania > Philadelphia
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-16-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
33 posts, read 106,279 times
Reputation: 36

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
All the overly impressed with themselves, close-minded, brain-washed, suburban living, with too much unearned wealth, and emotional Democrats care about is appearing to have empathy for the less fortunate while robbing the rest of us blind. Republicans do not want people who refer to them as bumpkins living in their communities. And if that means not funding every "art" project, ACORN like organizations, midnight basketball, and all those kickbacks to the wealthy Democratic politicians’ friends/relatives/pockets, then so be it.

Try doing a little research on the statistics of a "Republican" state like Texas versus a text-book perfect “Democrat” utopian peoples state of Massachusetts. There is no comparison; Texas is adding more jobs than the rest of the country combined. Why, because of a conservative approach to taxing and spending. Throwing more money at the problem isn’t the solution to Pennsylvania’s problems.

The warm climate, lack of organized labor, and the presence of cheap migrant labor, and, at least for a while, cheap home prices, no doubt contributed to the population surges of states in the Southwest. (Nevada and Arizona grew more than Texas last year, and they're not totally run by Republicans...)

It's easy to govern your state or city (and implement low taxes) when it is rapidly expanding. But when you've lost 25% of your population- as Philly has- then you are left with decreasing tax revenue and a crumbling community to deal with. We could go on and on about why companies left Philly to begin with (high taxes, big unions, cold climate, etc...) but the point is, they are gone!

Cutting taxes in Philly now would result in a budget disaster- because there appear to be few municpal programs that could be further trimmed to offset the tax cut. Nevertheless, In the future, when we have clawed our way out of this recession, we will really need to take advantage of the decreased operating margins and try to resume our efforts to attract more white collar businesses. This will have to include rock-bottom corporate taxes and reducing the city wage-tax. But again, now is not the time for this. At the moment, we just need to survive!


I think Mayor Nutter understands all of this- which is why I am quite bullish on the future of Philadelphia!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-16-2009, 03:42 PM
 
1 posts, read 825 times
Reputation: 10
You can thank the Eagles for this.They owe the city 8 million and they are stalling in court to avoid paying it back.

Obviously they care about the city and are a positive influence on the economy.

i won't really miss the FLP though. It was generally noisy, uncomfortable with outdated books. I could not even study in that place.

http://whyy.org/cms/news/government-...8-million/9866
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-17-2009, 07:13 AM
 
26,851 posts, read 43,334,989 times
Reputation: 31477
How about some facts on the issue?

All libraries will not close. The main branch on the Ben Franklin Parkway will remain open. 3000 city workers will be laid off, including 900 newly hired police officers and 300 firefighters. Trash collection will occur every two weeks, recycling will still happen once a week (it's a revenue driver for the city). The entire Recreation Department will be shut down and Fairmount Park staffing will be eliminated.

Two factors are at play here. The PA state legislature (the largest in the US in terms of seats) cannot agree on a state budget....meanwhile the other 49 states have managed to do so. If they can't figure out a state budget, how will they ever agree on a city budget? Additionally the city's unions will not allow a decrease (or stop payment) on their black hole-like pension funds which would help balance the budget. On top of that they're actually looking for a 9% pay increase over the next three years because that seems rational to them.

We can blame the Eagles (8 million dollars is a drop in the billion dollar bucket), but overall it's the city's unions and the majority rural state government hayseeds who hate Philly (despite the fact that the metro area accounts for 2/3 of state revenue) that are at fault. City Council is also apparently working with blinders on and unaware of the impending cuts. Don't blame Nutter although that's convenient without looking at facts. Like Obama he inherited a rat's nest of issues and has been given **** from almost Day One that he hasn't fixed it yet, and pretty much zero cooperation from anyone at the local and state levels.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-17-2009, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
7,246 posts, read 10,495,621 times
Reputation: 8758
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
Try doing a little research on the statistics of a "Republican" state like Texas versus a text-book perfect “Democrat” utopian peoples state of Massachusetts. There is no comparison; Texas is adding more jobs than the rest of the country combined. Why, because of a conservative approach to taxing and spending. Throwing more money at the problem isn’t the solution to Pennsylvania’s problems.
Not quite. Texas' economy is still relatively strong due to a large influx of population. As a result, businesses want to relocate to areas where there are increasing consumer bases, and -- right now -- that's the Sun Belt, which also happens to be generally Republican. HOWEVER, I think it's a bit disingenuous to attribute that to the "conservative" approach to taxing and spending, because, truly, there's no correlation. If PA was growing just as fast as Texas, we, too, would have the same amount of job creation.

For the sake of comparison, look at all of the generally Republican, Southern states right now. Not exactly a bastion of economic stability and success. The darker the state, the higher the unemployment:



http://www.bls.gov/web/lauhsthl.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mployment_rate

It's much more complicated than your overly-simplified political explanation.

Last edited by Duderino; 09-17-2009 at 04:42 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2009, 05:08 AM
 
2,525 posts, read 2,639,404 times
Reputation: 1841
Free Library Blog

The libraries finally got funding. I am curious what libraries will be closed or how hours will be affected.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-20-2009, 08:18 PM
 
3,210 posts, read 4,594,006 times
Reputation: 4314
But at least the union thugs got their rasies and a new home for the iggles!

The stupidity of this state is amazing, even Southerners I've met are horrified.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Pennsylvania > Philadelphia

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top