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Old 03-01-2010, 07:21 AM
 
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Default Is Philadelphia like DC in it's safety/cost relationship of liveable neighborhoods?

Is Philadelphia like Washington DC in its relationship between costs of a place and safety compromises.

I'm just thinking that in a city like Pittsburgh, there seems to be a lot of safe working class neighborhoods in the city that are also affordable for just regular people who want city amenities but don't have the high salaries to pay for them.

In Washington DC, it seems that if you want safety and urban, you'll be paying for it. Is Philadelphia similar - if you want urban and some safety thrown in, you'll pay for it?

(I got a wife and kid, which is why I'm interested in this).
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:35 AM
 
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Is Philadelphia like Washington DC in its relationship between costs of a place and safety compromises.

I'm just thinking that in a city like Pittsburgh, there seems to be a lot of safe working class neighborhoods in the city that are also affordable for just regular people who want city amenities but don't have the high salaries to pay for them.

In Washington DC, it seems that if you want safety and urban, you'll be paying for it. Is Philadelphia similar - if you want urban and some safety thrown in, you'll pay for it?

(I got a wife and kid, which is why I'm interested in this).
i think so. although, you will be paying more in DC for those amenities. and from what i've heard, Pitt is a city of well-established neighborhoods. people prefer to live in them vs the downtown businees district. while Philly is also considered a city of neighborhoods, the closer you are to center city or downtown the more desirable. it will definitely cost more to live there than other parts of the city. trust me, we were looking to buy in center city and there wasn't very much in our price range that wasn't completely dilapidated.
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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DC proper is maybe 1/5 to 1/4 the size of Philly. Combine that with a resilient job market and you'll see a sharp divide between upper-income and lower-income neighborhoods than Philly. What defines middle-class let alone working-class is relative in Washington as the cost of living is much higher, especially for housing.

While Philly certainly has its share of challenged areas, one can still find solid-working-class neighborhoods in all sections of the city...outside of Center City, of course.
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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Is Philadelphia like Washington DC in its relationship between costs of a place and safety compromises.

I'm just thinking that in a city like Pittsburgh, there seems to be a lot of safe working class neighborhoods in the city that are also affordable for just regular people who want city amenities but don't have the high salaries to pay for them.

In Washington DC, it seems that if you want safety and urban, you'll be paying for it. Is Philadelphia similar - if you want urban and some safety thrown in, you'll pay for it?

(I got a wife and kid, which is why I'm interested in this).
no. there are safe, affordable neighborhoods in philly. they just aren't the ones ringing downtown, though arguably south philly is affordable and reasonably safe. I often describe Philly as NY divided by pittsburgh. in truth, it's somewhere between DC and Pittsburgh in context of the question you ask. Pitt and Philly share a lot in common, IMO.
perhaps resilient job market isn't the right word, since DC's job market expands at the expense of everyone else's.
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Old 03-01-2010, 02:11 PM
 
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no. there are safe, affordable neighborhoods in philly. they just aren't the ones ringing downtown, though arguably south philly is affordable and reasonably safe. I often describe Philly as NY divided by pittsburgh. in truth, it's somewhere between DC and Pittsburgh in context of the question you ask. Pitt and Philly share a lot in common, IMO.
perhaps resilient job market isn't the right word, since DC's job market expands at the expense of everyone else's.
I partially agree with your assessment of DC's job market. It's true that the Federal Government plays a major role in that. But so do the contractors that choose to locate themselves near them, let alone the tech companies that (re)located there independent of any government dealings.

I like your "mathematical" description of Philly!
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