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Unread 07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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Default I don't think space and time are linked at all.

Here is why.

We perceive. Our sense organs take information in, and we form understandings based off of that.
Immortality is theoretically possible. In an immortal state, time would be a useless concept.
Time is relative. It can change depending on your perspective of it. This applies both physically and mentally.
In a timeless or relative time existence, our perceptions of space remain unaltered. Size wouldn't change.

Therefore, there must exist a phenomena that ties time and space together.

So maybe not "at all", but rather there seems to be a big jump from time to space...(and backwards?)...that talking about spacetime as if it's one thing is flawed.

I'd like to say, the space-gravity matrix. Where gravity links space and time...but it would be hard to prove since you'd need spaceless gravity and gravity less space....and a whole bunch of other states I haven't
thought of...not to mention a diffferent branch of math...one I'm unnacustomed with.

To the physicists, feel free to build off that if you think it has merit. I'm exhausted with the idea..just putting it out there.
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Unread 07-25-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Higgs Boson
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Unread 07-25-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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Hmm.

My attempt.

The higgs boson is a particle-gravity matrix.
The particle-gravity matrix is as such:

Imagine a state of nothingness. Absolute blankism. Beyond vacuum even.

In this state, now put a small particle. This particle will have a certain gravitational presence that will affect the nothingness state.

Imagine now the particle moving. The gravity field (or just the field of presence...I just labeled it gravity) will be affected. If it moves at a certain speed, a bigger or smaller field of presence occurs. At its maximum speed, all of its presence is within the particle. At rest, its field of presence is outside the particle. There is a definite scaling going on.

The higgs bosson, then, is made of the higgs field and the bosson particle.

The higgs field would be theoretical, and only proven as actual through the discovery of a particle that will act in such ways. You could only really tell if such a particle exists, though, by how that higgs field would affect other particles. It would be exhausting work...looking for a particle that affects other particles in ways consistent of a field of presence generated by a special particle that acts perfectly in those ways.

Then you'd have to explain why the other particles don't have that same field of presence, in the way that one does, and why this is.

But you start grasping at straws, the want would be to assume the antithesis and prove it. In this way, you keep it consistent, but you'd have to tie it back to either space or time. Space, not time, space is more objective.

Yay or nay?

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Unread 07-30-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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There is no time.
Time is something we have made up to make it easier to comprehend the concept of a beginning and a end.
Something is born and something dies and what is between these 2 events is time...simple. But I think that is making it too simple.

If there is such a thing as time, I believe it is just 1 component of a coordinate....like in time travel.
Time is 1 component and space is another, but they are not tied to each other.

And I do not believe in a static timeline either.
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Unread 07-31-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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The measurement of space and time belongs to the idealized concept of time by classical physics, for which, space and time are absolute, rather than a relative space .. seen in the guise of an empty static infinite, in which an abstract and mathematical time, goes linearly without interactions with any external event. This interpretation get sense only if in the immediate vicinity to the human dimension.
Are we jailed in this dimension?.....if so this is the hell
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Unread 08-05-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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So when the time space continuum reveals itself to the few, we can simply call it magic. Or you can study Prometheus, not the movie but the Greek god.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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No they arn't. Space is in perception and time is in the sequence of events. They occur in different parts of the brain.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Type O Negative View Post
There is no time.
Time is something we have made up to make it easier to comprehend the concept of a beginning and a end.
Something is born and something dies and what is between these 2 events is time...simple. But I think that is making it too simple.

If there is such a thing as time, I believe it is just 1 component of a coordinate....like in time travel.
Time is 1 component and space is another, but they are not tied to each other.

And I do not believe in a static timeline either.
Sorry dude but there is time. Otherwise you wouldn't have an awareness of time passing. Its all in your head otherwise time would go at the same speed for everyone.
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Unread 08-15-2012, 12:59 AM
 
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Time would not exist without space, and vice versa, is my contention. They are one and the same, like energy and matter. Just different expressions of the same reality.
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Unread 08-15-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Sorry dude but there is time. Otherwise you wouldn't have an awareness of time passing. Its all in your head otherwise time would go at the same speed for everyone.
You are right. It is all in our heads.
Define time.

Is time passing or is it just my energy level diminishing to the point where my host (body) can not be sustained.
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