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Old 12-03-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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Can we stop with the "Alpha," and "Beta" male categories?

Every time I see someone saying it, I just think "God, what an idiot.."

Can we learn some other adjectives please?

Is the guy you're seeing into sports, drinking with his friends? Say he's a sports enthusiast, who likes to socialize with his friends. You don't need "Alpha" to describe him..

Does your guy like painting pictures, avoids confrontation, would rather read instead of watch sports? Says he's creative and cerebral..

Tall and muscular? You could say he's got a Northern European body type, athletic..or simply say "tall and muscular"

Does he like confrontation? You could use "over-compensates," "a bully," "has anger problems," depending on the severity.

Timid? "Timid," "Shy," "Quiet," "Avoids confrontation," should work.

Anyway, off the anonymity of my computer and onto the internet this goes.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Central California
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Can we stop with the "Alpha," and "Beta" male categories?

Every time I see someone saying it, I just think "God, what an idiot.."

Can we learn some other adjectives please?

Is the guy you're seeing into sports, drinking with his friends? Say he's a sports enthusiast, who likes to socialize with his friends. You don't need "Alpha" to describe him..

Does your guy like painting pictures, avoids confrontation, would rather read instead of watch sports? Says he's creative and cerebral..

Tall and muscular? You could say he's got a Northern European body type, athletic..or simply say "tall and muscular"

Does he like confrontation? You could use "over-compensates," "a bully," "has anger problems," depending on the severity.

Timid? "Timid," "Shy," "Quiet," "Avoids confrontation," should work.


Anyway, off the anonymity of my computer and onto the internet this goes.
You're making an argument against using "alpha" and "beta" stereotypes, while stereotyping yourself. Just by your wording alone, I can tell that you don't even understand the difference between the stereotypes.

Anybody that knows me would describe me as "alpha." However, I hate sports (well, I like to play some of them; hate watching them though), like to read, I'm short and not muscular, and I don't over-compensate.

Basically, "alpha" means you take charge and go after what you want. "Beta" means you don't and you cry about it. They're not personality types. Instead, they're personal decisions (anybody can be alpha if they choose to be).
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:14 AM
 
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You're making an argument against using "alpha" and "beta" stereotypes, while stereotyping yourself. Just by your wording alone, I can tell that you don't even understand the difference between the stereotypes.

Anybody that knows me would describe me as "alpha." However, I hate sports (well, I like to play some of them; hate watching them though), like to read, I'm short and not muscular, and I don't over-compensate.

Basically, "alpha" means you take charge and go after what you want. "Beta" means you don't and you cry about it. They're not personality types. Instead, they're personal decisions (anybody can be alpha if they choose to be).
Confidence and leadership.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Central California
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Confidence and leadership.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:36 AM
 
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Can we stop with the "Alpha," and "Beta" male categories?

Every time I see someone saying it, I just think "God, what an idiot.."

Can we learn some other adjectives please?

Is the guy you're seeing into sports, drinking with his friends? Say he's a sports enthusiast, who likes to socialize with his friends. You don't need "Alpha" to describe him..

Does your guy like painting pictures, avoids confrontation, would rather read instead of watch sports? Says he's creative and cerebral..

Tall and muscular? You could say he's got a Northern European body type, athletic..or simply say "tall and muscular"

Does he like confrontation? You could use "over-compensates," "a bully," "has anger problems," depending on the severity.

Timid? "Timid," "Shy," "Quiet," "Avoids confrontation," should work.

Anyway, off the anonymity of my computer and onto the internet this goes.
Amen!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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You don't see people saying alpha and beta in real life... but when talking in general terms and discussing how certain people act it just makes it easier to have general terms people can understand. I don't really see the big deal. I guess if you take it completely to heart it could be annoying, but doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having an easy term to use?

An alpha male is nothing more than a confident dude who takes control of his own life and doesn't worry about people. A beta is someone who is weak and lets other people walk over him.

There's nothing about trying to be a certain person or trying to be "alpha". Just go out and do what you like to do, be yourself and don't let other people compromise that. It's really all it takes.. there's no reason to live life afraid to stick up for yourself.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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In the sexual marketplace being an alpha male simply means attracting a lot of good looking women. You can have confidence and leadership and still not be an alpha. You can be an unemployed meth addict and still be an alpha male.

According to this blogger there are not simply alpha and beta males but a whole spectrum. For example you may be a "lesser alpha" or a "greater beta". Here is his chart.

Defining the Alpha Male « Chateau Heartiste
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There are few "alphas" here. They don't bothering trying to represent themselves as one online. They just are. Think Tyler Durden

And to the OP's sentiment, yes, I hate the terms. People are not pack animals

Last edited by Philosophizer; 12-03-2012 at 05:22 AM..
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:10 AM
 
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Can we stop with the "Alpha," and "Beta" male categories?

Every time I see someone saying it, I just think "God, what an idiot.."

Can we learn some other adjectives please?

Is the guy you're seeing into sports, drinking with his friends? Say he's a sports enthusiast, who likes to socialize with his friends. You don't need "Alpha" to describe him..

Does your guy like painting pictures, avoids confrontation, would rather read instead of watch sports? Says he's creative and cerebral..

Tall and muscular? You could say he's got a Northern European body type, athletic..or simply say "tall and muscular"

Does he like confrontation? You could use "over-compensates," "a bully," "has anger problems," depending on the severity.

Timid? "Timid," "Shy," "Quiet," "Avoids confrontation," should work.

Anyway, off the anonymity of my computer and onto the internet this goes.

I'm with you. I feel like slapping someone every time I see yet another idiot thread here with "alpha" this or "beta" that.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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I don't think there is even such a thing as an alpha or beta. Shouldn't that be apply in animals (esp. the wolf pack)? Instead of alpha the right word apply should be assertive man. As for beta, it should just be reserve as an introverted one that doesn't like arguments.
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