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Old 12-18-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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We are integral in our experience of "reality." We co-create "reality." The concept can be difficult to grasp, especially if our awareness is stuck in "victim" or "blame" mode. This is a simple introductory concept:



Fred Alan Wolf on the nature of reality. - YouTube
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:55 PM
 
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How Your Mind Co-creates Reality Holographically - YouTube
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Do We Create Our Own Reality? -Panel of Experts - YouTube
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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Reality insofar as being true to one's self and recognizing that whatever is inside us needs to be either tended to, or at the least: to know thyself. And what he's concluding is that it's all related to the outside or extended world. There's a strong Eastern philosophical tinge to this.

What he's alluding to in the clip is that: in the beginning the human race was trying to survive and when it came time for us to think about the thinker, we weren't equipped to do so. There were Philosophers who did, but they were getting paid to do this, living in poverty or being persecuted. Now most us (currently) in Western society (ironically) cling to dogmatic beliefs even though we have plenty of lesure time; time we ought to be using to examine ourselves.

However I don't see the connection to quantum physics, nor see the need to use science to justify these sorts of beliefs. Nor do I get that vibe from this clip. It seems like the Western man's explanation of Eastern philosophy; even though Eastern philosophy just is.

EDIT: You posted two other clips while I was writing my response, I haven't had time to look them over yet.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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Reality insofar as being true to one's self and recognizing that whatever is inside us needs to be either tended to, or at the least: to know thyself. And what he's concluding is that it's all related to the outside or extended world. There's a strong Eastern philosophical tinge to this.

What he's alluding to in the clip is that: in the beginning the human race was trying to survive and when it came time for us to think about the thinker, we weren't equipped to do so. There were Philosophers who did, but they were getting paid to do this, living in poverty or being persecuted. Now most us (currently) in Western society (ironically) cling to dogmatic beliefs even though we have plenty of lesure time; time we ought to be using to examine ourselves.

However I don't see the connection to quantum physics, nor see the need to use science to justify these sorts of beliefs. Nor do I get that vibe from this clip. It seems like the Western man's explanation of Eastern philosophy; even though Eastern philosophy just is.

EDIT: You posted two other clips while I was writing my response, I haven't had time to look them over yet.
You have interpreted Fred Alan Wolf's comments incorrectly. What you have extrapolated is your interpretation, filtered through your world view. Please go back and view the clip again . . . and try to listen to what he is actually saying.

Future posters: Please view all of the clips and note that the thread subject is Creating Reality from a Quantum Physics perspective.

This is just information to take in to expand awareness. There really is nothing to debate unless you have a religious agenda - BUT this is the Philosophy forum, so please take that into account. Please: No religious arguments.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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I believe it is possible to co-create 3-dimensional reality, but I do not believe that just anyone can do it. If they could, we'd have lots of lottery winners.

There may be a few souls on Earth who have this power, but they may see things as perfect already, and choose not to interfere.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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You have interpreted Fred Alan Wolf's comments incorrectly. What you have extrapolated is your interpretation, filtered through your world view. Please go back and view the clip again . . . and try to listen to what he is actually saying.

Future posters: Please view all of the clips and note that the thread subject is Creating Reality from a Quantum Physics perspective.

This is just information to take in to expand awareness. There really is nothing to debate unless you have a religious agenda - BUT this is the Philosophy forum, so please take that into account. Please: No religious arguments.

I now understand. My mind is clear. I am free.

Is that what you want?

Because in a philosophy forum (or any forum in general) where intellectual thought and debate happens, there's well...discussion.

The irony is that I did nail the general theme from my "worldview" and happen to agree (somewhat cautiously) with some of what is proposed here.

I think reality is in part from our perception...however like the one guy with the double PhD, was saying in the second video; that they might be on to something, but language is holding them back.

I believe strongly that this is the case, and that I'll be staying on the other side of the fence and leaning towards belief systems that are made for believing.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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I agree that language is a barrier.

I don't "want" anything, other than to live in peace.

I just don't prefer wasting my time arguing with people.

I "believe" that everyone is resonating at their own wavelength, so people who disagree are simply on different (radio) channels. They can't "hear" each other - so it is a waste of time going back and forth if there is no mutual understanding of anything.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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EVERYTHING in the physical universe is product of human thinking. According to the Law of Thought. Nothing more than exteriorization of human thoughts. Without human thinking, nature would have been nothing more but amorphous blob of matter.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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I agree that language is a barrier.

I don't "want" anything, other than to live in peace.

I just don't prefer wasting my time arguing with people.

I "believe" that everyone is resonating at their own wavelength, so people who disagree are simply on different (radio) channels. They can't "hear" each other - so it is a waste of time going back and forth if there is no mutual understanding of anything.
But discussion brings about growth. You wouldn't be believing what you believe if hundreds of years of human thought, discussion didn't happen.

The Hegelian dialectic of thesis and antithesis, and the ability to synthesize information, to use this gift of human/ephemeral consciousness, in congruence with other's, with the other, is possibly one of the most beautiful things of all.

To dismiss outright opposing views; to suggest that inroads exist inherently between two different "wavelengths" shows that the inability to continue any sort of progression of thought, firmly rests on your shoulders.

Arguments and arguing, are simply means of persuasion. The onus of finding the truth in this context rests on all of us; it is work, it is work between each other, and this will go on forever. That work, includes doubt, it includes struggle, and the existential crux of the matter is that it will never be clear; just clear enough.

To extend the analogy, if you believe in radio wavelengths, could there not be overlapping wave lengths, static, weak signals, strong signals, those who have a fine tune and those that don't. I'd imagine there would be infinite amount of combinations (leeway) where we could still tune in to the same channel.
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