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Old 02-07-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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I decided to not have children. Why? I have better things in my life going for me than parenting. I have a high-octane career and nothing brings more satisfaction than making money. The almighty dollar is the deity I worship and I have better things to do than to reproduce. You should do everything for them and put them before yourself because they do deserve it. It's not their fault that they conceived because you couldn't control yourself. I refuse to voluntarily ruin my life and I deserve better than being a parent.

I still get all kinds of hell for my decision and some people have even called me gay but it's not a problem. It's a shame that people can think it's such a tragedy that I refuse to be as miserable as they are. I don't like children and I hate them. I avoid obvious places that children may go and if someone's spawn maybe in a situation that they can be harmed. I simply don't care and I let them learn the hard way. I just don't get why parents should think that I (as a childfree person) should care about your kid. I don't and they could get killed for all I care. Life is too hectic for me to worry about the well-being of a total stranger.

Why bring a world full of terrible people? It's in a downward spiral and this country is in a downward spiral. People keep saying we need to improve it for our children yet you guys decided to bring children into it. How about you deal with it perhaps?

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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What are "valid" (even though validity is subjective) reasons for not wanting children?

I will admit that I detest children. Frankly, anybody under the mid-20s I seem to hold an innate dislike towards. I feel for this reason, I'm scared I may even abuse any children I ever have. So for this reason, I don't want any children.
I don't think it's anyone's place to judge whether someone's reasons for being childless are "valid".

Some are childless by choice. Others are childless by fate. I don't judge or question.

Me, I'm kind of both. I wanted children when I was younger, but the older I get the more I see them as an inconvenience, a huge expense, a lifestyle dampener, etc. Plus, I have no hope for the future of this country and I'd be terrified to bring a child into this world because I don't think they'll have anything approaching the quality of life in their 30s that I currently enjoy.

YMMV.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA and Washington, DC
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I decided to not have children. Why? I have better things in my life going for me than parenting. I have a career and nothing brings more satisfaction than making money. The dollar is the deity I worship and I have better things to do than to reproduce. You should do everything for them and put them before yourself because they do deserve it. It's not their fault that they conceived because you couldn't control yourself. I refuse to voluntarily ruin my life and I deserve better than being a parent.

I still get all kinds of hell for my decision and some people have even called me gay but it's not a problem. It's a shame that people can think it's such a tragedy that I refuse to be as miserable as they are. I don't like children and I hate them. I avoid obvious places that children may go and if someone's spawn maybe in a situation that they can be harmed. I simply don't care and I let them learn the hard way. I just don't get why parents should think that I (as a childfree person) should care about your kid. I don't and they could get killed for all I care. Life is too hectic for me to worry about the well-being of a total stranger.
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I don't think it's anyone's place to judge whether someone's reasons for being childless are "valid".

Some are childless by choice. Others are childless by fate. I don't judge or question.

Me, I'm kind of both. I wanted children when I was younger, but the older I get the more I see them as an inconvenience, a huge expense, a lifestyle dampener, etc. Plus, I have no hope for the future of this country and I'd be terrified to bring a child into this world because I don't think they'll have anything approaching the quality of life in their 30s that I currently enjoy.

YMMV.
According to a couple of posters here, you are both "bigots."
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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I decided to not have children. Why? I have better things in my life going for me than parenting. I have a high-octane career and nothing brings more satisfaction than making money. The almighty dollar is the deity I worship and I have better things to do than to reproduce. You should do everything for them and put them before yourself because they do deserve it. It's not their fault that they conceived because you couldn't control yourself. I refuse to voluntarily ruin my life and I deserve better than being a parent.

I still get all kinds of hell for my decision and some people have even called me gay but it's not a problem. It's a shame that people can think it's such a tragedy that I refuse to be as miserable as they are. I don't like children and I hate them. I avoid obvious places that children may go and if someone's spawn maybe in a situation that they can be harmed. I simply don't care and I let them learn the hard way. I just don't get why parents should think that I (as a childfree person) should care about your kid. I don't and they could get killed for all I care. Life is too hectic for me to worry about the well-being of a total stranger.

Why bring a world full of terrible people? It's in a downward spiral and this country is in a downward spiral. People keep saying we need to improve it for our children yet you guys decided to bring children into it. How about you deal with it perhaps?
As a member of the society you live in, I applaud your decision not to have children. Good job!
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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According to a couple of posters here, you are both "bigots."
I'll happily wear the title because the only thing I adhere to is my bank account. It's verdict matters the most. It's the judge and jury in my life.
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As a member of the society you live in, I applaud your decision not to have children. Good job!
I don't need or want your applause. You can just leave me alone.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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I'll happily wear the title because the only thing I adhere to is my bank account. It's verdict matters the most. It's the judge and jury in my life.

I don't need or want your applause. You can just leave me alone.
LOL you do not know you just posted to a discussion thread in an open forum right? If you want to be left alone, don't post to such things.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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LOL you do not know you just posted to a discussion thread in an open forum right? If you want to be left alone, don't post to such things.
*facepalm* I know I did but I also know a backhand comment when I see it. If you would really want to praise me then you would leave me alone. What makes you think I care what you think about me? You're not that important. How would you like for me to applaud you for helping the entire human race down on its descending course by xeroxing yourself?
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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*facepalm* I know I did but I also know a backhand comment when I see it. If you would really want to praise me then you would leave me alone. What makes you think I care what you think about me? You're not that important. How would you like for me to applaud you for helping the entire human race down on its descending course by xeroxing yourself?
How do you know I have children?

And I am 100% sincere in my belief that people who do not want children, should not have them.

The fact that you think that is a backhanded comment really says far more about you than it does about me.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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How do you know I have children?

And I am 100% sincere in my belief that people who do not want children, should not have them.

The fact that you think that is a backhanded comment really says far more about you than it does about me.
It's obvious you have reproduced. I can make a pretty confident guess just by your posts in this thread. If I'm wrong then please let me know. Sure you were sincere but then again we can't exactly prove that nor that you can prove that it was sincere. What does it say about me? It says nothing really. What it does say is that you believe you and your opinions are held in a higher esteem in the eyes of other people (mainly speaking for myself) than you really are.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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I decided to not have children. Why? I have better things in my life going for me than parenting. I have a high-octane career and nothing brings more satisfaction than making money. The almighty dollar is the deity I worship and I have better things to do than to reproduce. You should do everything for them and put them before yourself because they do deserve it. It's not their fault that they conceived because you couldn't control yourself. I refuse to voluntarily ruin my life and I deserve better than being a parent.

I still get all kinds of hell for my decision and some people have even called me gay but it's not a problem. It's a shame that people can think it's such a tragedy that I refuse to be as miserable as they are. I don't like children and I hate them. I avoid obvious places that children may go and if someone's spawn maybe in a situation that they can be harmed. I simply don't care and I let them learn the hard way. I just don't get why parents should think that I (as a childfree person) should care about your kid. I don't and they could get killed for all I care. Life is too hectic for me to worry about the well-being of a total stranger.

Why bring a world full of terrible people? It's in a downward spiral and this country is in a downward spiral. People keep saying we need to improve it for our children yet you guys decided to bring children into it. How about you deal with it perhaps?
I would have totally agreed with you about 20 years ago. I was disgusted by families and couldn't imagine why anyone would actually want a child. Then I met someone special, became financially and physically settled, and realized that I was at the end of the time when it would even be physically possible to have a child. I changed my mind rather suddenly, and then I wanted children as much as I used to not want them. Now I have one, and I have turned into the very kind of person I used to look down on. Someday it could happen to you, too. You know, resistance is futile and all that....
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