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Old 05-14-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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I'm just getting started with my Greek philosophy. Right now, I'm reading about Aristotle's work, and I've noticed a lot of his world view aligns with modern conservatism. Do you agree?
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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Plagiarizing Ayn Rand or are you not aware that she tried to make this failed argument as well?
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:28 PM
 
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Plagiarizing Ayn Rand or are you not aware that she tried to make this failed argument as well?

Never followed Ayn Rand.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Never followed Ayn Rand.
Well that's a point in your favor.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Never followed Ayn Rand.
Well that's a point in your favor.

Given that Aristotle argues that the origin of action is choice and that end to be achieved by all choice is eudaimonia (happiness not as pleasure but as harmony), that's a no to Aristotle being a conservative.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:33 PM
 
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Well that's a point in your favor.

Given that Aristotle argues that the origin of action is choice and that end to be achieved by all choice is eudaimonia (happiness not as pleasure but as harmony), that's a no to Aristotle being a conservative.

But he opposed art, something liberals favor.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:36 PM
 
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I would say not. Aristotle believed in the politics of the community, where the community of people are the greatest goal of a city. Where the best things are held in common good, and the ones that were only good for part was a perverted good.

He also believed slaves generally deserved it because they were like beasts to man (Only someone as different from other people as the body is from the soul or beasts are from human beings would be a slave by nature).

That focus on the acquisition of property (including wealth) is not a good part of household management, as well as any wealth based on trade.

These were all written about in Aristotle's Politics, which sound nothing like modern conservatism or liberalism. Without knowledge of one of his most well known works I don't know if the OP's statement was more then a little bit premature. Come back when you have read more.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:38 PM
 
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But he opposed art, something liberals favor.
He most certainly did not. Are you thinking of Plato? Plato was against poetry, for instance, because it was mimesis (imitation). Aristotle, on the other hand, wrote the Poetics. And his treatise On Rhetoric is dedicated to the art of deliberation about things that could be otherwise.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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I thought is was Genghis Khan ...
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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I thought is was Genghis Khan ...
That goes without saying.
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