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Old 06-06-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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God doesn't have to justify it. God doesn't have to give us a reason. We chose to be this way.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Man can advance himself and maintain survival only by a certain amount of aggression, in each individual's effort to better his place and his share of what the community is able to produce. Morality is the effort to adjust that gray boundary between what must be done in order to advance, and must not be done as harmful to the social organization as a whole.

The fact of this equilibrium remains operative, whether or not you think man is the creation of a god. "Sinful man" is simply the man who pushes that boundary beyond the limit of the wellbeing of mankind, and of necessity, that boundary has to be fuzzy. It is not important whether that limit is a natural check-and-balance of man's effort to progress, or whether it is imposed by a god who knows what those checks and balances are.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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Default How does a Just God justify sinful Man?

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If He freely released the guilty without payment He would not be Just.
Maybe he is a she... a he/she.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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OP, how about "how does a just gawd allow raping of children"?
He either can't stop it or doesn't care enough to do so....and instead says "ill wait until you're done raping the kid then ill punish you"!
As someone once put it: that's the difference berween me and your gawd. If I could stop a child from getting raped I would!

(considering a gawd does not exist, the above is entirely rhetorical :-)
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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Read up on "The Problem of Evil" and you'll see some interesting theories.
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Actually, though I already posted here, "god" does not justify anything. Men do. All I see or hear is men arguing with men. I have never - nor did any one of you - see or hear god speaking up on any of those matters.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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you'd think God would be above needing to justify anything to silly humans.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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OP, how about "how does a just gawd allow raping of children"?
He either can't stop it or doesn't care enough to do so....and instead says "ill wait until you're done raping the kid then ill punish you"!
As someone once put it: that's the difference berween me and your gawd. If I could stop a child from getting raped I would!

(considering a gawd does not exist, the above is entirely rhetorical :-)
well then, you think you'd be a better god than God?

when was the last time you created a universe?

whose prayers have you answered recently?
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Shhh..there is no sin...and look, someone else that knows that...


The Great Secret

God was full of Wine last night, So full of wine
That He let a great secret slip.
He said:
There is no man on earth Who needs a pardon from Me -
For there is really no such thing,
No such thing As Sin!
That Beloved has gone completely Wild-He has poured Himself into me!
I am Blissful and Drunk and Overflowing.
Dear world,
Draw life from my Sweet Body,
Dear wayfaring souls,
Come drink your fill of liquid rubies,
For God has made my heart
An Eternal Fountain!

~Hafiz
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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well then, you think you'd be a better god than God?

when was the last time you created a universe?

whose prayers have you answered recently?

LOL
wow, with that kind of thinking/"logic", you and your kind will not get anywhere.
you have made at least 3 false assumptions in your short 3 liner up top.

it's a shame....
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