Why do you want to have kids? (biological, points, purpose)

[Matt Marcinkiewicz]

Originally Posted by DavidJK

I would like to have children but only hypothetically. Having kids must be the most horrible thing in the world. Your time stops being yours, your money stops being yours, your house stops being yours.

So when you have your hypothetical children, how do the concerns in the third sentence not apply? Are the hypothetical kids born as wealthy self-sufficient adults?

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate[d] the cynicism of your comment, but I couldn't resist. Also I'll say that I think that having kids could potentially run the gamut from being the worst to the best thing that could happen to a person. Depends on the kids, and on the parent, and on x y z and theta

[convextech]

Originally Posted by TVC15

spending the enormous amount of time posting nearly 17K posts. It seems that you would have a better use of your time

As if looking at other people's profiles in order to underscore your own bitter judgment of them is all that productive.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by convextech

As if looking at other people's profiles in order to underscore your own bitter judgment of them is all that productive.

It's not only that she knows how I should be using my time, but that I cannot experience unconditional love for my daughter, parents are not that much of contributing members of society, and that I need to learn biology from feminist, sex authors.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by convextech

As if looking at other people's profiles in order to underscore your own bitter judgment of them is all that productive.

What? No you don't have to look at anyone's profile to see how many posts they have.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

It's not only that she knows how I should be using my time, but that I cannot experience unconditional love for my daughter, parents are not that much of contributing members of society, and that I need to learn biology from feminist, sex authors.

Silly woman. Show me where I said that you can't experience unconditional love for your baby.

You can learn Biology from any source you choose but again. Oxytocin has a biochemical function in all mammals and during times of nursing it's purpose works the same in all mammals and it is not to help you create unconditional love. It's purpose is for survival of the offspring via continued lactation. See how evolution works to help increase our chances of survival.

I believe I said it is a lame excuse for wanting to bring a child into the world especially since it does not take having a child in order to experience unconditional love. That is what I said...remember?

Then you start on this love chemical load of crap. Oxytocin is a hormone and functions as one.

You apparently have a lot of work to do in the unconditional love journey. Especially since you don't even know what it is and think that it comes magically in the form of a "love chemical"

Good Emotional Intelligence is also a great thing to have.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

Are you kidding? You come to this thread and tell me that I cannot experience unconditional love as a parent towards my child and you think I'm not in a position to tell you that you are wrong.

No you are wrong in this statement. I never said that you cannot experience unconditional love as a parent towards a child.

Sorry it went over your head. You are truly clueless.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

I'm still shocked that you actually linked a feminist, author, musician whatever Heather Corinna (is there another Corinna I can't find online who is actually a scientist?) to make your case and in tandem challenge anyone's understanding about biology. You have entirely forfeited any possible credibility you could have. Frankly, while expectations are low I would still expect more from any tech. You must have had one class that delved into research while you were in college to know better.

What a joke I am not a tech dear. I am a CLIA consultant with a strong blood transfusion background. And I have an MS with a emphasis in Molecular Diagnostic's.

Nice how you just want to criticize one link and ignore the other...

I am shocked that is all you could get from the links. Not surprised though.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by TVC15

What a joke I am not a tech dear. I am a CLIA consultant with a strong blood transfusion background. And I have an MS with a emphasis in Molecular Diagnostic's.

Nice how you just want to criticize one link and ignore the other...

I am shocked that is all you could get from the links. Not surprised though.

Your first link agrees with my premise and your second link is asinine. The fact that you really do not know how to research online is beyond me. Again, you have absolutely no business calling yourself a scientist on this forum or touting yourself as some kind of expert. Med tech, CLS, diagnostics, it's all the same. Are you not blood banking?

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

Your first link agrees with my premise and your second link is asinine. The fact that you really do not know how to research online is beyond me. Again, you have absolutely no business calling yourself a scientist on this forum or touting yourself as some kind of expert. Med tech, CLS, diagnostics, it's all the same. Are you not blood banking?

Grasping at straws in desperation does not make you right. It makes you look foolish.

I suggest that you purchase a subscription to PubMed or any other online site that allows access to Published scientific papers and knock your self out reading about the biochemical functions of Oxytocin especially during breast feeding. And be ashamed that this is what you call unconditional love.

Here you go I will give you a start but you must have a subscription to access the full paper.

The peptide that binds: a system... [Harv Rev Psychiatry. 2010 Jan-Feb] - PubMed - NCBI

I don't need to post published papers here to prove my points. There is plenty of decent scientific literature posted on the web that does the job for the non scientific audience which is exactly what you are and why I posted them for you.

Nothing I posted fails to show the biochemical functions of Oxytocin. And they do the job in showing that this is not unconditional love. You just can't come up with anything better so like a child you start name calling. Grow up dear.

Like I said you are not different than a rat that is nursing. Oxytocin works the same in all nursing mammals.

Also you have a long way to go to understanding what unconditional love is. I will give you a hint...you don't get it from Oxytocin.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

Your first link agrees with my premise and your second link is asinine. The fact that you really do not know how to research online is beyond me. Again, you have absolutely no business calling yourself a scientist on this forum or touting yourself as some kind of expert. Med tech, CLS, diagnostics, it's all the same. Are you not blood banking?

First of all I was not doing scientific research online. Googling information about Oxytocin to post on CD is not considered online scientific research. Silly woman.

Med Tech = Medical Technician which is a 2 year degree.

CLS = Clinical Laboratory Scientist which is a 4 year degree.

MLS = Medical Laboratory Technologist which is a 4 year degree.

SBB = Specialist in Blood Banking an additional year on top of the CLS degree.

MS = Master of Science which is a 2 year graduate degree.

You can check out the ASCP website if you need verification of what I just posted.

And no I am no longer working as an SBB. I have moved onto the world of Molecular Biotechnology with my advanced degree in Molecular Diagnostic's . And yes I am a scientist.

Get now?