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Old 09-18-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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Yes, having children is a burden that families who have them are saddled with. It is a self-imposed burden that they bear because of their life choice to have children.
Indeed, but these children that you are complaining about, or complaining that you have to pay taxes, will be supporting you when your time comes. So, you are going to benefit. Given that, why complain?
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, AZ
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Yes, I think it's selfish to not want to have children, especially among married couples.
Why? I have no maternal instinct. Zero, zip, nada. I hate being around children. I hate the noise they make and the mess and the bodily fluids. I have no interest in a blank slate to which I have to teach everything, at least for the first five years of its life. I have never cared about passing on my genes or anything like that.

I was raised by a woman who has no maternal instinct, and I wouldn't want to inflict the same on anyone. Why is it selfish for me not to put a child in that position?
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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Why? I have no maternal instinct. Zero, zip, nada. I hate being around children. I hate the noise they make and the mess and the bodily fluids. I have no interest in a blank slate to which I have to teach everything, at least for the first five years of its life. I have never cared about passing on my genes or anything like that.

I might love you.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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Yes, having children is a burden that families who have them are saddled with. It is a self-imposed burden that they bear because of their life choice to have children.
Yes, when I look at my children all i see is a burden that I'm saddled with. Yep, that's all.

It's pretty clear that people's outlook on life and humanity in general determines how they feel about this.

And again...I still don't think not having children is selfish at all.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: SC
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Yes, when I look at my children all i see is a burden that I'm saddled with. Yep, that's all.

It's pretty clear that people's outlook on life and humanity in general determines how they feel about this.

And again...I still don't think not having children is selfish at all.
You are taking my words out of context. I was responding directly to Sponger42 who posted statistics on how families with children are financially burdened compared to child-free homes. I never said your children are a burden to you personally. I was using his words to address financial statistics and taxes.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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Yes, I think it's selfish to not want to have children, especially among married couples.
I just really want a child...I think it will fulfill my life...It's what I want...blah blah blah. That's pure selfishness. And then you subject some kid to a life in a world with increasing wars, crime, food shortages, poverty, gross global over-population, climate deterioration, natural resource shortages, corporate, government corruption, decreasing human rights, increasing gap between the rich and the poor, catastrophic debt, class warfare, global economic collapse. Thanks. And all because you wanted a child. That is the very definition of selfishness. You are contributing to the downfall of society because of your selfishness.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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Except for the fact the terms have become interchangeable in modern parlance. Please do try to keep up with the times.
Sorry, I don't do stupid. The times may choose to be stupid. I do NOT.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Why? I have no maternal instinct. Zero, zip, nada. I hate being around children. I hate the noise they make and the mess and the bodily fluids. I have no interest in a blank slate to which I have to teach everything, at least for the first five years of its life. I have never cared about passing on my genes or anything like that.

I was raised by a woman who has no maternal instinct, and I wouldn't want to inflict the same on anyone. Why is it selfish for me not to put a child in that position?
Will you marry me? Or at least join my harem? No mothers in the bunch!
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Yes, I think it's selfish to not want to have children, especially among married couples.
Why?
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:19 AM
 
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I think having children is the most incredibly selfish thing anyone can do. And yes, I have kids.

I wholeheartedly admit, I wanted kids. I wanted someone who is a likeness of me, someone who would love me unconditionally, etc. So you see, it was all about me.

Who can honestly say they had kids for some reason other than themselves in the equation? Not a single person. People aren't having kids so they can cure cancer. Unless you're a genius, a millionaire, or a prodigy, your offspring are nothing special to anyone else but you and your core family.

Just an observation.
Most important, you didn't have children for their own sake. You didn't really care if you were bringing to the world someone who would suffer and regret being born.
People have children mostly without any thought for whether they want to be had or not. And when people have them, it is the children who have to live with the consequences of parent's desire for having them, not the parents.

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