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Old 12-23-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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What is the greatest lie ever created? What is the most vicious obscenity ever perpetrated upon mankind? Slavery? The holocaust? Dictatorship? No! It's the tool with which all of that wickedness is built. Altruism. Whenever anyone wants others to do their work, they call upon their altruism. Never mind your own needs they say. Think of the needs of whoever. The State. The poor. The army. The king. God. The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words "Think of yourself"? It's the king and country crowd that lights the torch of destruction.

It's this great inversion, this ancient lie that has chained humanity to an endless cycle of guilt and failure.

Andrew Ryan~
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Altruism. Whenever anyone wants others to do their work, they call upon their altruism. Never mind your own needs they say. Think of the needs of whoever.
Like your family or friends? Not into helping strangers in any way? I've got a holiday story for you to read, it's called "A Christmas Carol."
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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Like your family or friends? Not into helping strangers in any way? I've got a holiday story for you to read, it's called "A Christmas Carol."
That was actually posted as a joke. It's from a pretty crazy character in a video game. So, it was more of a pop culture reference that you were just not familiar with.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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So, it was more of a pop culture reference that you were just not familiar with.
Boy I sure missed that one. The original post bothered me for about a day, because I did take it seriously as a possible philosophical position. Then while experiencing some Christmas isolation and watching a few family dramas on TV, it finally hit me what was wrong with declaring altruism to be evil. It just didn't add up with basic notions of kindness practiced at the individual level.
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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Boy I sure missed that one. The original post bothered me for about a day, because I did take it seriously as a possible philosophical position. Then while experiencing some Christmas isolation and watching a few family dramas on TV, it finally hit me what was wrong with declaring altruism to be evil. It just didn't add up with basic notions of kindness practiced at the individual level.
Yeah this same guy, named Andrew Ryan in the game built an underwater city "where the scientist would not be bound by "petty" morality". He's literally insane throughout the entire story.

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But at a fundamental level, the most harmful lie you can tell someone is that
they are not good enough / worthy enough to be treated well or to be worthy of
their own dreams and aspirations. If you get them young, when they are
vulnerable and not fully formed and experienced, it's particularly easy to set
the stage for lifelong anxiety, fear, depression, anger, self-defeating and
self-destructive behaviors, etc. Such people have to work ten times as hard
just to function, and I seldom meet one who has really broken free of the
subjective feeling that they're inadequate and/or worthless.
As far as my actual response to this thread, I enjoyed this the most. I agree entirely. I had an experience like this from someone I looked up to that took me years to rise above. "The brick walls are there for a reason. They're not there to keep us out. They're there to give us opportunity to prove how badly we want something." I had 3 people, complete strangers ( my supervisors throughout my internships), who went out of their way to help me achieve my dreams. I now pay it forward to help others, because sometimes there's no way to pay back the people who helped you so much.

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Old 12-26-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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Default God is on my side!

I'm surprised I didn't see this already posted.

(Hopefully I didn't miss it)

Without a doubt the saddest, most infamous, cause of pain, suffering and death on this mud-ball of a planet.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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Many of us know ukrkoz. Sadly weapons are on moneys site. Green people are called "terrorists" today. Because of trying to keep this planet in condition. Trying to save water and food is criminal
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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1) that there is no god, or no personal god who rewards good deeds and punishes bad deeds.
2) that there is no right or wrong; it's all relative. "if it feels good, do it!"
3) that there is no hell.
4) that all truth can be reduced to physics.
+1
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Not a myth, because violence is absolutely sometimes justified. Just imagine a deranged shooter in a mall who is killing innocent people. A police sniper takes him out. That is 100% justified. To fail to attempt to take out the shooter would be unjustified.
Violence is not justified.

A law enforcement officer neutralizing a threat does NOT qualify as violence.
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