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View Poll Results: Do you consider yourself to be a "spiritual" person?
Yes 3 18.75%
No 13 81.25%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2013, 06:26 PM
 
Location: kS.
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Do you consider yourself to be a "spiritual" person?

What is a spiritual person?

If someone is spiritual, how should we define that?

Can it be defined accurately?
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Rivendell
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This should be moved to the atheism forum.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Blackwater Park
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"Spiritual" is a bit ambiguous; you may want to give a definition.
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Old 09-14-2013, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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This may not tell much.
Some atheists clearly view "spiritual" as being meaningless...perhaps most atheists.
Many probably view it as having meaning, but it's a meaning they believe it has that many people don't.

It's best described as a useless term, but atheists will use it in reference to themselves and other atheists, and that, of course, has meaning.

It does probably have value as a diplomatic tool to use with the more fundamentalist believers, to insist: "I can be spiritual, just like you. There is a good chance you view "spiritual" as meaning being interested in things other than short term gains based off simple emotional feedback. I promise to do no public weenie-wagging, and will keep the orgies with strangers met on street corners to a minimum. I will be unlikely to drain your gas tank while you're not looking, or choose an investment in lottery tickets to spend the majority of my savings on."

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Old 09-19-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Windham County, VT
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I voted no, as I'm an atheist & don't consider myself "spiritual".
However, as others have noted, "spiritual" is a wishy-washy, poorly-delineated term.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I am technically agnostic, however, on a scale of 1-10 I am a 9.5 so I voted in the poll and voted no.

The reason is I tend to think more scientifically, however, I do think within my lifetime I will know for sure what happens when we die.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: kS.
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Originally Posted by Josseppie View Post
I am technically agnostic, however, on a scale of 1-10 I am a 9.5 so I voted in the poll and voted no.

The reason is I tend to think more scientifically, however, I do think within my lifetime I will know for sure what happens when we die.
If not then maybe afterwards.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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spirituality is inconsistent with atheism

I loathe your username, FWIW
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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H. sapiens is a social species, meaning that the individuals cannot normally survive without a social organization of other member of the species. To such a well-evolved species, a god is not necessary for the evolution of brain functions that have survival value in relationships with other members of society, of a nature that we call "spiritual". Spiritual cognition on the part of humans is simply a meshing together, a collective recognition, of the social elements that favor a sense of cohesion within the social community and enable common social values and objectives. Often limited to social perspectives that defy intellectual articulation. Morality is a good example.

The fact that people are moral is not a proof nor even evidence that there is a God. Nor is the fact that people are spiritual.
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Originally Posted by Joint heir with jesus View Post
Do you consider yourself to be a "spiritual" person?

What is a spiritual person?

If someone is spiritual, how should we define that?

Can it be defined accurately?
To answer your questions:

No

Whatever you or I decide that it means

It's up to each of us

No

Since I can never resist a more nuanced response, I'll add to this by saying that personally I define "spirituality" as paying attention to and playing with the subjective side of life. I don't do all that much with it myself because I have boiled it down to this: we need / want to be connected to others and to accomplish good outside ourselves. If you want to turn this into "being a part of something larger than myself" and then define "larger" as "galactic in scale" and maybe toss in "therefore, god" -- go right ahead and do so. I am going to stay within my scope as a finite, insignificant being in a vast universe and stick with what is doable. I intend to contribute as much as I can to the pleasantness and happiness of the lives of my wife, (step)children and grandchildren, and maybe my extended family and community if I have that much energy left over. I do it because I find it gratifying, which creates a feedback loop that motivates me to do more of the same. I do it because it's what it do.

Nothing more complicated than that ... the rest is just excess baggage.
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