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Old 06-29-2014, 06:27 AM
 
Location: France
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I was just thinking about it lately. This world is only getting worse and when you create a life you are bringing someone into an uncontrollable existence like this. You could create a person that could suffer enormously. Nobody can have a choice on whether they are born. What if their preference would be never to have existed? Do people still have a right to force someone into being? Is it moral?
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Is there anything we do NOT have a right to do, if it is in the best interests of the wellbeing, survival or propagation of the collective members of our species? From the standpoint of human behavior, what defines "right"?
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: NYC
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By this logic, all the endangered species should just give up now.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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If were not to have right, you would have not been provided with means.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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I was just thinking about it lately. This world is only getting worse and when you create a life you are bringing someone into an uncontrollable existence like this. You could create a person that could suffer enormously. Nobody can have a choice on whether they are born. What if their preference would be never to have existed? Do people still have a right to force someone into being? Is it moral?

Did your parents have the right to create you?
Was it moral the way they created you?
Did they have a right to force you into being?
Have you asked them about it?
Is your preference to not exist?

Everyone who has ever been born has been born into an uncontrollable existence, that's life and unless you are dead you can't get away from it once you are born.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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You could create a person that could suffer enormously.
And you could create a person who could mitigate or reverse the suffering of millions.

If any meaningful discussion is possible on such an arbitrary and subjective topic as the human "right" to reproduction then I doubt it will be based upon mediating around potentials and rhetorical questions.

Perhaps a more eastern philosophy of life might work for you. "Life" already exists. As do "pleasure" and "suffering". When we reproduce we are not creating anything new. Just moving "life" around the way blobs do in a lava lamp.

Not my philosophy but I mentioned it to highlight how easily such a philosophy would disolve your thread topic entirely. Under such a philosophy the concept of having a "right" or "no right" to reproduce and "create" life simply becomes rather meaningless.

Perhaps therefore a grounding of the thread in what YOU think "rights" are and what or where they stem from in the first place might bring sense to the discussion.
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